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Hit or Dance? 301 help needed

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by rankjuice, Jul 26, 2013.

  1. rankjuice

    rankjuice Regular Member

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    have recently been testing out the 301 spam method for a high comp kw and managed to get to the number 3 spot. I recently found an unused domain in my arsenal with a DA of 50 soI thought I would add that to the mix. The site went up to the number 2 spot for the past 2 days but today, it is not even in the top 100. The site is still indexed but im not even ranking for some good long tails that I used to rank for.

    Could this just be a dance or do you think the site has been hit? The site is only 2 weeks old.

    I know this may come across as a noobish question but im not sure about how the google dance comes into play with 301s so instead of testing/waiting it out, I thought I would try and find out from people would have been using this method for a while.

    Also, once the site has tanked and I have made a new one, do you have to change all the 301s to the new domain or can you just leave them redirecting to the old site and just redirect that one domain to the new one. In theory, this should work as you still get directed to the new site but im not sure how it may affect the flow of link juice.
     
  2. Moosey

    Moosey Senior Member

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    It could be a dance, give it a couple days to see what happens. IF it is hit, just 301 to a new domain and reupload the site there.
     
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  3. rankjuice

    rankjuice Regular Member

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    Thanks mate. I understand that I should wait it out like a normal site but I just needed to know if a dance is expected with 301 spam as I have done the same with 2 other sites yet they have never danced
     
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    Moosey Senior Member

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    It's happened to us in the past, we've come back from dropping out of top 500, but it might be a hit as well.
    Time will tell mate.
     
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  5. rankjuice

    rankjuice Regular Member

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    thanks once again mate. BTW, could you tell me if I would need to point all of the 301s to the new domain or could I just redirect the hit site to the new one.Only reason I ask is because some of my sites have over 40 301's going to them and its a pain in the arse to change the redirection on all of them.
     
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    you could write a simple php script so that you could change it in single place and the change is reflected across all your pages/websites
     
  7. rankjuice

    rankjuice Regular Member

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    The problem is, im not much of a coder. I can alter simple php code to my needs but I cant write a script from scratch. Learning PHP fully is on my list though :)
     
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    I've run into the same issue. Within hours of directing the 301s somewhere else my sites come back up.
     
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    rankjuice Regular Member

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    can anyone else shed a little light on the whole 'redirect 1 site or all of them' question?
     
  10. tiagorossi

    tiagorossi Junior Member

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    i've made a new site and 301'd a pr4 domain to it, and in the other day i got on 27 spot for main kw.
    then i've just spammed with 5k links with mix anchor to the pr4 domain and the site just vanished.
    then i've removed that 301 and made a new 301 from another pr4 domain, into the 1st domain i've put an html file with a article with some images and videos and also a link to the new site.
    about 1 week after this im back to the 29 spot, now i'll build some links to the site and see what will happen.
    IMO, i think one site (who has the penalty) will pass it to the 'target' site so it all depends on removing the penalized 301 to get rankings back.