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Hiring VAs - Looking for tasks to test/evaluate them and weed out the ones who suck.

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by MakeLemonade, Jun 3, 2011.

  1. MakeLemonade

    MakeLemonade Junior Member

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    I'm hiring VAs, for administrative work, SEO, whatever takes time that I don't want to do.

    What I really want is people who follow directions. Even better if they can figure some things out on their own. Most people can't do either of those things. It's not always obvious who can get stuff done. So I want a way to weed out the non-performers.

    I'm looking for simple, measurable tasks I can give applicants, to see if they're good... or they suck.

    Seems to me that white hat SEO is a great way to do this. Some ideas:

    • Paul and Angela's backlinks. See how fast they get it done, and check their links.
    • Use scrapebox to grab all my competitors backlinks. Then have them figure out which pages/sites they can also get backlinks from.
    But I'm pretty sure there's also various videos/methods etc. in the download forums that I can use as tasks for testing their ability.

    Any suggestions?
     
  2. Imhotep

    Imhotep Regular Member

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    management is one of the hardest tasks to master, yet it is the most crucial. that is why experience is what counts in any profession. That being said... I too still struggle with the same problems! I had went through a few VA's before I found a good way to test them.

    All you need to do is get them on the phone, but that is easier said than done, many are pretending to be women, others are pretending to be men, some are bots! It all depends on where you hire from! I have a good place I get from now and my tests have yet to fail. I ain't giving up my source but I will say to stay far away from freelancer if you want a serious worker.
     
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  3. MakeLemonade

    MakeLemonade Junior Member

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    Sex changes for VAs? Sounds weird.

    Yes, freelancer sucks... I've had to take people to arbitration. A lot of folks manipulate their feedback rating. One guy had near perfect feedback for graphics design, but was HORRIBLE.

    He couldn't even have the left and right margins even, or indent bullets appropriately.

    It turns out that he appeals any bad ratings in exchange for a refund or something. I saw his rating and thought it must be me. No... it was manipulation!
     
  4. unknownassailant

    unknownassailant Newbie

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    Show them your post. If they tell you to go screw yourself, hire them.
     
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  5. scopezero

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    yes , try the methods first urself and see how much time and effort it takes and if u want serious VA's , u need to pay them good and the risk is always urs.

    It depends on what u select and how u manage them .if u think u can get 3-4$/hour VA's and they will work there a$$ out for you to make money , then it is a wrong choice my mate coz they might be knowing seo more than you and soon ur projects will be hijacked by ur own VA's .it has happened to me before , so beaware

    My experience : i wanted to get a simple PHP job done for a wp plugin , i hired the best and cheapest but soon i realised that the people asking for large sums actually are good in there work and provide u with ultra fast jobs , on the other hand i waster lots of $$ and never get my job done

    cheap is not always the best

    Hope u get my point
     
  6. Chrisss

    Chrisss Senior Member

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    A good idea is to make an interview. You can use skype for this. And as you mentioned yourself. Give them some simple task to test them.

    But do be prepared to spend time to train them.
     
  7. MakeLemonade

    MakeLemonade Junior Member

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    The point was I don't want to have to learn this stuff. I want to just give them video courses so they can learn to do it for me.

    I'm lazy and have no interest in learning everything on my own.
     
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    Hi Makelemonade,

    I would suggest to try an outsourcing firm instead. Staff are formally trained, educated and instructed with only top-notch standards, leading the outsourcing industry. employees hired by our company go through a rigorous screening process. passed through different interviews. Have done lots of trainings so you can assure that the staff will deliver quality output.
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  9. MakeLemonade

    MakeLemonade Junior Member

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    Why would I pay you twice as much for someone I can train myself? I'm serious.

    I'm just looking for training materials to train folks myself.
     
  10. gonzalop

    gonzalop Newbie

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    I invented JoyProof to do video tracking for my remote employees.

    Their productivity went up 50%

    Visit our site.

    Gonzalo
     
  11. dtachia

    dtachia Newbie

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    treat them like u would any non-virtual candidate, interview them, get background check, references, review their applications, etc. Take the whole process professionally.
     
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    Now I have read everything:rolleyes:
     
  13. J1218

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    What I always do is interview them over Skype before I even decide whether or not to hire them. That way I can get a better feel for how they are as a person, their English, experience, and everything else I need to know.

    Then if the interview goes well, I'll give them a trial period (normally 1 month). They will be paid for the trial and I tell them if they pass it, their pay will be increased at the end. (It's important to really increase their pay so they stick around and know they can trust you.)

    As for tasks it depends on what you're hiring them for. If it's an article writer, I just get them started writing and spinning articles for me. Writers are the easy ones to judge because the evidence of how good a worker they are is concrete. If they are sending me a solid number of articles per day consistently with good English and grammar, they are good. If not, I get rid of em.

    For my SEO VA, I was lucky enough to find a really good one on like my 3rd try. I hired him from OnlineJobs.ph and for his first tasks I just had him using SE Nuke and making link pyramids, social bookmarks, profile links, and RSS submissions. Then I had him doing blog comments too.

    Make sure you're asking for a detailed daily spreadsheet report of all the work that was done so you can verify it yourself. You will want to know exactly what they did and the URLs for every link that was built.

    I wouldn't have them doing any manual Angela and Paul style backlinks or really anything manually for that matter. The sooner you get them using tools, the more they will be able to get done in a day for you. A VA using software is 100x more productive than one doing everything manually assuming they use the tools correctly.

    Try going to OnlineJobs.ph to find someone. That's where I found my SEO VA and he's been working out great.