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High Quality Traffic, you get shit all the time!!

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  1. RuthSam

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    So here is my story!

    I have ordered several traffic packages from BHW sellers, some of them are even a big seller with thousands of reviews that all say they are good.

    What's the problem?! Easy, to start with I ordered a package with a new seller here on BHW, his BST is still active and I wrote my comments there just so I remember it for the future. The problem is the seller promise 100% save ADSense clicks and as usually everything went wrong and when Google should have paid out the money the BANNED the account.. Thanks to this seller.

    When I wrote a PM to the seller he of course refused that it's his problem at all, when I wrote in the thread people start bitching and say it's my fault.. why is it, because I used this service? anyway I give a shit about comments like that since I'm confident they are paid any way.

    So far lost an 8 years old ADsense account, my bad!!

    Next please:
    I went to a very known seller of traffic here at BHW, I bougth from them in the past I think about 2 years ago where everything was just great, Alexa ranking improved and there was even a good ratio of clicks which maked the whole thing safe to use.

    Now a few years later, I ordered again, 15000 visitors over 30 days! The story starts with huge delays, they didn't see my order and came with excuses why it wasn't started.. anyway I ignored that and just waited for them to get started. So finally they send me 2600 visitors at the first day, 3800 visitors the second day and peaked with 4600 vistors on 1 day.. I e-mailed them a few times, again excuses and they fixed the issue.. there was no impact on Alexa almost no clicks, so it is total waste of money, but that's not my point (I will of course not order again, and it say a little about all the reviews they get which claim the opposite) they made some changes and the traffic came in again, this time aprox 1000 visitors the first 4 days and then it all stoped, no more visitors from this provider!!

    I send them 3 e-mails, telling them they don't send any more traffic and that I can see this on Google Analytics, their reply comes here:

    I could start a huge discussion with them and get a bad day but I give up on that shitty customer support and the way they treat customers. I think they realize they have a shitty service and can't deliver anything any more and just try to fool people into their business.

    What would you do here?

    Next please:
    I tried a new service here on BHW got a review copy for 1000 visitors. It was as shitty as the above second provider. No impact at all on Alexa and no clicks.

    In the meantime I got several PM's asking me if I have found any reliable BST or source for traffic and I told all of them, this does not exists here, they are all fraud.

    So I'm asking, where is it possible to get real traffic that at least increase Alexa ranking? Or do you think it is simply not possible to buy this for money?
     
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  2. dandan594594

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    Just set up a few free amazon AWS VPS and build your own Hitleap points for fake traffic.

    You can then cloak the traffic through twitter (send yourself a message and use the short url) to hide the fact is is from hitleap.
     
  3. RuthSam

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    Interesting.. I can follow you, but the last part... "send your self a message and use the short url" can you explain?
     
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    Sure! You may have noticed that when you tweet, twitter auto shortens the links?

    If you go to "messages" and @Yourself any link, then copy the short URL and send traffic through that twitter shortened link, all stats will show as twitter traffic.

    Easy way to cloak traffic source.
     
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  5. RuthSam

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    ahhh, now I learned something new.. thanks :)
     
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    Did you write negative reviews on their sales thread about your experience? Did you leave the seller a negative iTrader? Bitching about things like this without stating who the seller is is doing absolutely nothing to make sales threads better, but instead just spamming the Lounge with the same whiny shit as usual.
     
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  7. RuthSam

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    Where is this SPAM? Why do you reply? if you think it is spam report it if it makes you feel better!

    The point is simply to get a discussion going about traffic and how to get quality traffic just with some BG info first.
     
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    @Hawkster Damn it man. It's too early in the morning for all that shit.

    @OP dude. Did you leave a review? Did you report the thread?

    You can't just bitch about stuff like this and expect it to change just because you start a thread telling people you found shitty services in the Marketplace. The mods are actively trying to clean that place up. But they can only do so much. You need to leave a review and/or report the thread. That way they can look into it, see what the problem is and act accordingly.

    This is especially true if you think reviews are paid. @Apricot is going out of her way to hunt down people using paid reviews. Just make her job easier and tell her what the problem is. She'll look into it for you.

    I don't think people realize how much power you have as a customer. It's true that you're not always right, but if you had a genuinely bad experience with a seller that didn't deliver what they promised, you have the right to not only be angry, but out them and tell everyone else. You have no idea how many people may have had your experience, but may be too scared to say anything. Or they may think that it doesn't matter. And it does.

    If you're flat out lying about the safety of a product, that is a huge deal. If you promised a certain amount of traffic and didn't deliver, that is an equally huge deal. That person should be reported. End of.
     
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    That's true mate. I totally understand you and I agree that there are threads that are fake as hell. May be in the start they all are like quality ones but gradually they just care less and no replies to tickets or emails etc.
    I gave you a thumbs up for this.
    Also report that thread and give a negative comment on the thread so that atleast rest of us can save our time.
    Thanx
     
  10. RuthSam

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    Well, everytime I post about a service negative when it's what I have experienced then 20 posters exactly like the posters here @Hawkster @Sherbert Hoover so I don't want to waste my time with such.. they all argue that it's not true and have several reasons why it's my fault... I admit I didn't used the shitlist nor the iTrader system, but will do it now already gave a negative review to one of them.. so again he has 600 positive reviews and only 1 negative, now he has 2 negative how should it help? next step would be to open a shitlist thread I guess.
     
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    negative reviews would help and if you feel you've been ripped off, it's better to put up a shitlist.
     
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    I only posted an image of shit. I didn't judge you or offer any opinion what soever. Nor did i argue anything wasn't true or say anything was your fault. If you cant take what i put for what it is, which is SHIT then thats not my fault. Lighten up a little. A lot of services are shit, especially those traffic ones. That's just how it is.

     
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    Looks like you're not buying from the right sources. I think you should focus on buying traffic from fb, google, and other reliable sources. Remember that if you're doing your job of targeting your ad to the right audience, the traffic gets cheaper.
     
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    You are buying traffic man, of course there are always risks like that adsense one. Buying traffic is like throwing the towel and saying - I created something but it's shitty and gets no visitors, Ill just pay some guy to run any kind of algorithm on my site to throw fake numbers at them which he states are real in his sales pitch.

    Dude, there are no shortcuts, the ultimate goal for everyone is traffic, traffic is money no matter what is your project or monetization method. You can't buy money.
     
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    Never heard, seen or thought of it that way.

    Interesting.

    PS @Hawkster - Please don't ever post a pic like that again. At the very least it should come with a warning! PLEASE Man!!!
     
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    this is me and i will be glad to respond to this

    Next please:
    I tried a new service here on BHW got a review copy for 1000 visitors. It was as shitty as the above second provider. No impact at all on Alexa and no clicks.

    In the meantime I got several PM's asking me if I have found any reliable BST or source for traffic and I told all of them, this does not exists here, they are all fraud.

    So I'm asking, where is it possible to get real traffic that at least increase Alexa ranking? Or do you think it is simply not possible to buy this for money?


    check his site he submitted for review of course i will not share his url but i will screenshot his alexa ranking that shows he moved up over 18000+ in ranking.. see attachment..he ordered a (1000 free visitor trial) package from me and i was the last person he ordered from to his rant ... now i'm not saying my traffic was the only one that moved his alexa ranking up but its funny how he says not even his alexa increase and the image below shows different

    the problem here is people wanna buy success they think they can buy clicks and bank..if this was possible why would I sell traffic i would just build sites all day and send traffic to them. i cant speak for others but i make it clear that we don't guarantee clicks and don't expect this but our traffic will not get your adsense account banned.
     

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    That's what I mean, the screenshot you took here shows alexa ranking 1,200xxx,xx so this is the current status, it jumped from 890k to 960k to 1,1k and now 1,2 I say it is the wrong direction! I wasn't to name anyone but now you did it yourself then stick to the truth and don't try to fool anyone here your traffic is as much trash as the other 2 guys with one note at least... the guy who made me loose the ADsense account, his traffic seemed at least increased the ALEXA ranking, there was other things going on at this time so I can't say 100% if that actually was his traffic or all the other stuff.

    As I said, I give a shit about my lost and some of the other stupid arguments in this thread, what I wanted was to get a discussion going about the traffic traders, that it's simply not worth anything other than you are filling other peoples pockets, so if someone could have proved me wrong I would have been happy with that.
     
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    Hi,
    Have you tried any alternative traffic tracker to check it?
     
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