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Hiding Every EPN Identifier with PPC

Discussion in 'Cloaking and Content Generators' started by michro01, Oct 28, 2008.

  1. michro01

    michro01 Junior Member

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    How do you make sure you are hiding your traffic source when using PPV advertising for an ebay affiliate site? I have the referrer and such covered, but apparently they can track headers as well? Can anybody give some information on this, and how to make sure ebay doesn't know your buying PPV like Media Traffic, which I hear always gets busted as its against there T & Cs.
     
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  2. wedge421

    wedge421 Registered Member

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    Make sure its all from the country u are located in. Make sure you have a good site with ebay content on it.
     
  3. michro01

    michro01 Junior Member

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    I was referring to PPV. Great reply, thank you. I also sent you a PM Genjutsu.

    Is it impossible to make money with PPV? Will EPN always find you out, or are there programs or scripts that I can use to hide these things? How can I check the user_agent string? And what am I looking for?
     
  4. notset

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    Genjutsu, do they filter leads that comes form adware networks automaticly, or they cancel the leads later when they check manualy the useragent?
    thx
     
  5. litning1078

    litning1078 Registered Member

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    Things that will show up in the User Agent will be something Like "Zango" or "Fun Web Products" or something along those lines.

    Notset,
    It depends on the network, but I think most of them check them later and then you could have a problem because it it then too late.

    I would just ask the AM of whatever program you are working with if they have an issue with that kind of traffic, and if they do, plan accordingly. Some networks I have worked with have an issue with this kind of traffic, some do not, it just depends, so check it out beforehand and save yourself some frustration.
     
  6. notset

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    Litning thx for ur responce, do u think zango overwrites cookies?, because i have spent a lot of money with them but i was getting 0 leads, the traffic was hightly targeted i was doing a double meta-refresh but again was getting 0 leads.
    what can cause my affiliate plataforms to automaticly filter/donĀ“t track my leads?
    i would appreciate your help, please
     
  7. litning1078

    litning1078 Registered Member

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    I do not know what Zango does as far as cookies go. I do think you need to check on some other threads here and see that many people have had their campaigns stolen by Zango if Zango thinks it was profitable and they would start promoting the offer themselves. Just make sure you do your homework on any new advertiser that you may be thinking of using.
     
  8. michro01

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    I would assume EPN tracks those things? What "Steps" can I take that you were referring too?
     
  9. donnieo

    donnieo Newbie

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    Sending visitors with a PPV user agent may not be an issue by itself since those people browse the web and sites like ebay with or without you guiding them there. If an abnormal percentage of your visitors have the PPV user agents, then it might be obvious that this is your traffic source. Again though, you may be allowed to use that traffic as long as you are sending it to your own site and not forcing clicks. EPN has terms regarding this which do not necessarily rule that out. So one option is to blend in other traffic to dilute the user agent issue, but you would want quality traffic in that case so your EPC stays decent. You can also check the user agents and only redirect the ones you like (if your margin is high enough to sacrifice a lot of your traffic or if you can monetize it another way). Since it sounds like you're forcing clicks though, that's another matter. EPN is known for installing adware to catch people in the act. If they end up at your site without a forced click to ebay, then there may be no problem as long as the adware company is TRUSTe certified. EPN's terms on this are a bit confusing though but look in their code of conduct document in the legal agreements section. If they catch you forcing a click though then it's probably all over.
     
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  10. michro01

    michro01 Junior Member

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    I use one of the best cookie stuffers out there, and it has never gotten me caught before, so I would probably continue to try this, if that was my only worry. Unfortunately its not. If I wasn't making millions of dollars, why would they even look at my account? If I keep it around a certain number, would this still be a likely method?
     
  11. michro01

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    Where can I obtain this list? lol
     
  12. michro01

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    I have no idea what to search for, but what I typed in did not bring anything valuable up.
     
  13. michro01

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    lol thats a little hard when I have no idea what your referring to, thus no idea what to "research". I appreciate your help, but typing in "ebay IP addresses", and variations of that was pretty much all I had to go on, and that didn't list anything. Your confusing efford with inexperience and lack of knowledge, which is why I'm on the forums.

    Thanks.
     
  14. michro01

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    hmm interesting. I will look into all of this.

    Thanks. :)