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Hi I am back. Plus, my rant on PPC affiliate marketing...

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by Slim_Ghost, Jan 1, 2008.

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  1. Slim_Ghost

    Slim_Ghost Newbie

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    Hello guys. Anyone miss me?

    I have been out for sometime to focus on my new endeavour which is PPC affiliate marketing. Basically, what I did is that I set up my ads in adwords which link directly to my affiliate link (and consequently to the merchant's page).

    I have heard a lot of hype (or rather, myth) about how oh so easy it is to make money out of this so-called Google Cash method, so I spent the last 5 weeks giving it a try. And the result is, very, very unsatisfactory.

    Dun get me wrong. Getting inside the sponsored results page is easy. I know how to nuke the other same-URL competitors out of the page and make them stay out for good. I know how to make ads with impressive CTR. I know how to split test. Etc, etc. But the thing is, I had over 300 clicks for all my ads and I GOT NO SALES!!:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

    I donno what happened here. Either the viewers leave the merchant page and purchase later - making my leads null and void, or the respective affiliate programs refuse to record a sale for me, I don't know. But I do know is making money as an affiliate using PPC is extremely difficult - if not impossible.

    I bailed out as soon as the costs for my ad clicks get twice higher than the potential sale of the product I am refering to. I do not intend to waste a fortune testing something which I have no idea works or not.

    Has anyone got any luck with using PPC to market your affiliated products? Any product categories or networks you would recommend to me?

    PS: Please, dun ask me to market "make money quick" or "get rich quick in your pajamas" type products. I have an innate loath in marketing them, being a fraud victim and all.
     
  2. havokb8

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    I made 150K lat year with PPC, unfortunately its nearly impossible to get the right thing going on the first try, or usually the 10th even. It took me a few years of brainstorming and hard work to get to where i made a lot. So expect losses early, but its definately possible to make a ton.
     
  3. Slim_Ghost

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    havokb8 can you give me some helpful tips? I think my problem is that my ads attract ONLY those annoying tire-kickers who aren't interested in buying at all.

    I tried making my keywords as lazer-targeted as possible (for example, by targeting the phrase "the simpsons movie DVD" instead of "the simpsons movie") and I made the ad in such a way that only those who want to buy will click on my ads, not the freebie hunters or review seekers (I put "Click here to buy" for example) but strangely that doesn't stop the tire-kickers from wasting my money with their empty clicks.

    I just don't get it why all 300+ visitors click an ad which obviously tells them to purchase something from Amazon when they dont' want to buy in the first place.
     
  4. noesis2020

    noesis2020 Newbie

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    I've made over $120K 3 years ago (ROI was 60%), but things have changed alot when big G started sticking their middle finger to the little guys like us. Now my ROI is razer thin 10% and I'm trying all the blackhat stuff found on this forum to pay the bills.
     
  5. Alindria

    Alindria Registered Member

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    I gave up on PPC after spending a ton on those idiot tire-kickers. My ads all said "Buy XXX Now $29.99" and such. I gave the specific item AND price. But NO sales. I'd say it must have been competitors clicking my ads that many times and not buying. I don't know what else could explain so many people clicking a link with a price and then NOT buying.
     
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    Slim ghost, I think you had a bad converting sales page that you were using. I'm trying ppc affiliate marketing as we speak. Any tips would be appreciated:)
     
  7. commandos

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    could also be competitors , adsensers , etc....
     
  8. fizfaziq

    fizfaziq Newbie

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    Not sure if you have try to put the product price in your ads. This will help get more targeting visitors on your clicks by eliminate the people not interested to buy in certain amount.. I hope so..
     
  9. pdaguy9

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    Hi,

    I'm far from a PPC expert, but I have had some success with direct linking via Adwords.

    There are several keys to keep in mind:

    1. The product should pay a great commission. I don't know what you're promoting, but DVD's aren't going to cut it. The commission is way too low.

    2. The product should be popular. Try seaching google trends for products that are being searched for - then find an affiliate program for them.

    3. A lot of times, there is simply too much competition for the product. Scan how many are competing against you. If its 4 or 5 pages of competitors, the cost to entry might be too high.

    4. Try bidding on terms such as "buy [product]", "discount", "coupon", or "order". These are buying terms and have less competition.
     
  10. BuzzKill

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    What do you mean "nuke the other same-URL competitors out of the page and make them stay out for good" ?

    Are you sending traffic directly to an amazon page?
     
  11. havokb8

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    I wouldnt go with Amazon anyway man, What do they give you like 3% or something, plus pay quarterly if I remember right. My advice to you is to think about it this way: I bet 90% atleast of adwords advertising have thought about making ads for amazon, which usual means that it just wont work... Another problem is with the new Google quality score, if you only target the people that are going to buy, next thing you know your CTR will fall too far and you will get screwed on your CPC, thats why its such a fine line now...Ive been fighting the bullshit quality score forever, if anyone has found a way around it let me know, I can make us a ton.
     
  12. frivvy89

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    He means Google will only show 1 ad with the same url. In that case, the highest bidder stays alive.
     
  13. BuzzKill

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    Ah good, thats what I was hoping. I know some people have taken it upon themselves to get competition kicked from adwords which is a total douche move.
     
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    The first thing I did to nuke the competition is that I put an insane amount of Max CPC for each of my ads, like 100 dollars. I maintained the CPC for just 10 minutes - long enough for my ads to get inside the page, but short enough before anyone can click on it and cost me a fortune. And then I gradually reduce the CPC into something I am comfortable with.

    The wierd thing is on certain ads I was able to maintain a 100 dollar Max CPC and only end up paying like 0.60 cents or 1.50 dollars, something like that for each click. Maybe because of my high CTR?

    I guess the double serving rule of Google is based upon the max CPC you are willing to put, instead of the actual costs of each ad you are paying.

    That's another hole in Adwords algorithm to be exploited I suppose.
     
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    Great information thank you!
     
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    Do I understand correctly that you were using your affiliate URL as your final destination in the ads? Or were you cloaking?

    Something else worth taking into consideration is that if you're working in a niche that has a ton of competition then any sales made might be done on a basis where the provider of the last click before sale wins.

    I operate in a high ticket niche and have great relationships with the companies I work with. If I could use my Adwords skills to drive sales I would, but without setting up an entire website to link to (and then customer would click through to merchants) it's a total non starter.

    As an aside I built up mailing list that I emailed once a week but it took me six hours a month and only earned me £30 a month so wasn't worth it.
     
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