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Hey guys I was wondering, what are some good tools?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO Tools' started by derpywizard, Dec 12, 2010.

  1. derpywizard

    derpywizard Regular Member

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    Hey guys who are you all doing tonight/today?

    I was wondering if you guys could help me with something. I haven't been getting enough traffic to my sites to make sales and submits for some of my CPA offers. About 2 months I made a clickbank sale and I felt great, ecstatic really. However I wasn't able to continue it because the product wasn't popular at all and the searching for the keywords I targeted also dipped in interest as I was only get 1 visitor a day if I was lucky to that site. Now that I have time to focus on continuing my IM adventures, I have decided to put my all into it.

    Now heres the thing. I have a plan and a layout to make money invloving two ways which is selling clickbank products and getting email/zip submits for a cpa offer. I am mainly going to focus on selling clickbank products, although one of my posts on an amazon review site I made finally sold something and is slowly rising in the SERPS for a keyword (only 5 visitors a day though).

    What I need are tools to make my work go faster instead of spending all day writing articles, signing up for bookmarking sites and web 2.0 sites, and submititng rss feeds, etc. Sure free is good and I did learn a lot while doing it. And perhaps it would be wise if I countinue to do everything by hand until I have a solid grasp on everything and actually have an income, even a $1 a day to get myself movitated.

    However, I have the captial necessary to buy a couple of products to speed things up. Since I sold a product with abysmal traffic I feel that I could have a steady income if I only had some more visitors. Heck I even bought myself SENuke and a few "guru" products to get me started (the guru guides are alright so far and I think are almost worth the money if I had not already learned most of what they say from here, google, and my own reserach). SENuke is fan-freaking-tastic. However the price is FAR too high for the things it does. What I mean is that while SENuke is a pretty good DOES IT ALL program there are too many flaws with it. Not really flaws but glitches, account creation failures, mailing faliures, double posting glitches, basically just bad coding with this program. And worst of all is trtying to get links indexed, but that's no SENuke's fault. When SENuke X comes out I'll give it another go but for now I want to get what SENUke offers seperatly.

    Anyway, so I enjoy Senuke's bookmarking, account creations, rss submitter, and forum poster a lot. However they are very limited. Damn I just realize it took me forever to get to my point...

    What I need to know is, what do YOU guys reccomend for:

    Bookmarking programs

    Article rewriter and/or unique content generator (article submitter not necessary, I like to submit articles only to 5 high pr article sites an revise em myself before I send, although a mass submitter for satelitte web 2.0 sites would be fantastic liek SENuke offers)

    Account Creation programs

    Forum posters

    Proxie programs (one that can harvest some public proxies to use with scrapebox and other programs that will need it like bookmark and forum posters)

    and finally indexing tools/programs

    I've considered bookmarking demon but I feel it's a tad expensive. Might be worth it though since it claims to offer alot of bookmarking sites. I'm really thinking of bookmarkwiz since they have a 60 day money back guarnetee and a trial (someone stop me if it's bad). I'm currently using KEyword Smaurai but considering Nicheshark. Finally I thought about Xrumer but it's pretty much my entire budget so that's a no go for now, and besides I don't know where to buy it. If anyone has experiences with these programs, please let me know.

    Thanks again guys and happy holidays.
     
  2. DavidM19

    DavidM19 Junior Member

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    I use scrapebox and article marketing robot.

    Love them.

    I own bookmarking demon and eh...it's ok I guess, I don't use it really often though.

    Just remember, every tool will have it's problems, as long as it's saving you time though, it's saving you money.
     
  3. dannyhw

    dannyhw Senior Member

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    Think about what you want your overall strategy to be and seriously consider the pros and cons of all aspects. There's no right SEO strategy and the last thing you want is to end up with a tool that you don't actually want to use.
     
  4. maxxtuner

    maxxtuner Junior Member

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    market samurai for keyword research

    then scrapebox, article submitters, social bookmarking submitters for backlinks

    Internet business Promoter to track your SEO quality.

    TIME AND PATIENCE! SEO IS NOT AN OVERNIGHT JOB!
     
  5. derpywizard

    derpywizard Regular Member

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    Yeah that's true. I have my overall stragety inplace though. What I need right now desperatly is more time and since I have some disposable income (like $500 usd) I'd figure I buy tools to do everything I do but much faster. SENuke had exactly the things I was looking for but each module had too many faults and wasn't powerful enough for me. I could spend an entire day just trying to get kinks out that it would cost me same amount of time to do it myself (ie. when I was creating bookmarking accounts a bunch of them would refuse to work because of security certifates, proxy failures, but mostly winthin the program itself).

    Yeah! That's exactly what I mean. I'm probably never going to get EXACTLY what I want but as long as it does most of it what it says, then its fine! Yeah I'm definetly going to buy scrapebox, I need to do some comment spamming. So you like article marketing robot? Is it a really good spinner, or submitter, or both? I want to try TBS but I am also looking for a submitter. Bookmarking demon doesn't live up to it's potential? Compared to bookmark wiz it has a lot more sites (at least form the sales page, but those are never too accurate), deifnetly more than SENuke. My biggest concern with bookmarking software is whether they will work. Does bookmarking demon double post, miss posts, or fail account creations often? If not I'll consider it.

    Indeed. It also never ends, but thats alright I'm willing to put in the work after seeing my first sales. Yeah I'm stickign with MS. Still learning all the stuff on it. I still could use some reccomendations for article and social bookmarking and account creation software that you guys like to use, before I make my decisions to purchase any. What is Internet buisness promoter? I've heard of it before but haven't checked it out.

    Thanks again guys.
     
  6. DavidM19

    DavidM19 Junior Member

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    Bookmarking demon works :) just feels slow to me.

    But it does that to keep it under wraps, that way the servers aren't bot suspicious. I just don't find it as useful as say SB or AMR

    Article Marketing Robot is great, the spinner I don't use, I use spinner chief (A program just like TBS that's free) and auto spin my plr articles, they aren't good quality, so they only end up getting accepted to 200 or so sites from AMR, but that's good enough for me.

    Usually 10 or those sites are pr 3 or above.

    A lot of them end up being automatically indexed in google too. It's pretty cool.

    I will say that bookmarking demon has done everything I wanted it to, I don't know why, I just never found it all that useful.
     
  7. flaktrak

    flaktrak Power Member

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    To start with.. especially if you dont have alot of money go scrapebox. There is a thread on BHW where you can buy it at a BHW special price. For what it does, it is great value! It can be a headache sometimes. However once you have played with a little you will start to see results. Becareful though. as with any automated tool if you over do it, it can have drastic results.
     
  8. derpywizard

    derpywizard Regular Member

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    Thanks for really elaborating on this! That's exactly what I'm looking for, I'm going to check out AMR once more and then purchase it. I'm looking into spinner chief but apparently there was some sort of cookie scare going on with that program. However since it's free and people compare it to TBS I can't help but take another look. I'm going to run it inside a VM and see if anything goes up with my cookies. I usually write all my articles so I wonder if I can get accepted into even more, although 200 sites is a TON of sites to submit, woah (I usually only hit up ezine, articlesbase and goarticles).

    As for BMD, well as long as its faster than manually submitting to bookmarking sites I won't complain! I'm still decideing between BMD and bookmark wiz though, damn I can't make up my mind... Once again thanks for your input David.

    Oh so true, man. Just reading scrapebox threads makes me scared. I feel like if I start a linkbuilding campign and then forgetting about it midway I might get my site deindexed (I'm currently working one site right now, and it's rather new at 3 weeks of age). I'm ready to buy scapebox though, manually looking for blogs to post in as a pain in the rear. Thanks flaktrak.

    Also it appears I finally made a sale on my amazon site. It happened two days ago when I wasn't looking heh (I would log in everyday to look at the converts). Now I know what keyword(s) I need to target, this is awesome. What I really could use now though is a forum poster and an indexing program, as most of the links that propelled my site's keywords are forum profiles but hardly any of them indexed (20 out of 100, whoppe). I think I might just start some clickbank review sites on the side, since it took me a long time to set up my one amazon site. Cheers guys!
     
  9. DavidM19

    DavidM19 Junior Member

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    Indexing? Check out index bear, they try to index 1,000 links for 10$ they get like anywhere from 30% to 70% indexed usually.

    Biggest thing is keep building links though!

    On a side note, I noticed that whatever I point AMR at it indexes, within a few minutes.

    so what i do is take all of the high pr articles I publish, and point amr at those too (you can use two links per articles, so i point one at my site and one at the other articles) It's a long process but my site jumps up by a page or so every week ever since I started doing this, i blast like 8 articles a day or so.

    I heard about the spinner chief scare, but no one ever came to a consensus, I wouldn't worry about it.
     
  10. derpywizard

    derpywizard Regular Member

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    Ah yeah! I heard about index bear before. I actually considered using them but I prefer to do it myself, though if my forum links continue to go unindexed I'll probably reconsider it.

    I like your strategy but I don't really like to use link wheels, I prefer link pyramids myself. Although I'm not really sure what works better anyway since you said those linkwheels work for you. However after looking at what AMR can do I'm going to purchase it tomorrow (going to sleep now).

    Although a lot of my links are unindexed I can at least index 50% of my web 2.0, articles, and definitely all my posts after a few days. I struggle with indexing forum links, bookmarked em, rssed em, pinged em, and yet no more of my forum profile links want to be indexed (20 out of 200) and it's been 3 weeks. Perhaps if I point the articles to an aggregated feed of 20 forum links... well I dunno. Guess I'll just keep building links for now.

    Yeah I'm still going to run spinner chief in a vm tomorrow though. Might be a bit slower but I'd rather be safe than sorry. Thanks for your input David!
     
  11. aj113

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    Just to let you know, SpinnercHief has thousands of registered users and there is not one single reported case of SC performing a malicious act anywhere at any time. You can check all of the known forums but I can save you some time by advising that you won't find anything.
     
  12. DavidM19

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    I don't really use amr to make linkwheels...

    Well maybe slightly.

    Link pyramids sound great! If you have the patience :p (hint, I don't have it)

    Honestly what i've found is just keep building and building links.

    There are so many ways to rank for keywords it's insane :) only way to find out what really works is to try yourself (and analyze the competition)

    For instance I realized one of my competitors ranks by using articles (not on the scale that i'm going for though) and another one uses blog comments (more blackhat, probably scrapebox)

    So i'm going to use both :)

    Really (and unfortunately) it's just a patience game, but I still highly recommend article marketing robot, the links are so easy to index, a lot of them don't need extra juice, and anything you point that machine at gets indexed anyway.
     
  13. derpywizard

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    I agree. I'm starting to hate having to track each link and making sure I don't leave footprints. I think I am leaving footprints anyway because this is what I do: Since I got scrapebox I am scraping high pr pages and manually posting. I first post as much as I can to one or two or all of my satellites if I have the patience and then keep the good ones in a file. I return to the list later that day or another day and post on the same pages to my money site under different public proxies. although it's technically a link pyramid because all comments are one-way, Google can probably see that they are all mine anyway right? At least that's what I think. I'll probably start using link wheels if I don't see results fast enough.

    I downloaded the demo of AMR but I haven't had a chance to test it out. It looks nice but I can't sort the article sites by PR. Do you recommend blasting throwaway articles (articles I either make unique or rewrite from ezines and only use for linking to satellites and comments tier 2 etc.) all at one to each link I want indexed or are a certain number of articles fine (AMR says lots of links will tend to fail out of the 1000+ links, only 500 might go through)? I know, I'll probably have to test it myself to see what works but I want to know what you guys do to get stuff indexed. Do you guys even reccomend article blasting satelites, or tier 1 sites that connect to my money site? I feel like blasting my money site with articles over time might do the trick, but I'm not sure.

    Anyway thanks David!
     
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    qbd1313 Newbie

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    linkwheels is great ,article marketing is difficult