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Here to answer all your questions related to the Adult Niche

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by neweaver, Jun 23, 2013.

  1. neweaver

    neweaver Regular Member

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    I was in adult for around 7 years and built hundreds of blogs, some tubes, a lot of TGP's, and two cam sites. I have learned a lot about converting traffic, how to build traffic, what sponsors you should use and sponsors you should avoid, and etc.

    I want to help you guys out and answer any questions that you have about a website related to the Adult niche.

    I am here to help so fire away :)
     
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    What are conversion numbers like? I hear they are horrible.

    Do adult SEO'ers have a totally different approach to SEO? I imagine they would.
     
  3. neweaver

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    It all depends on the type of site you are running. At this time conversions do suck, but there is still hope. The easier types of sites to convert are blog websites at this time, because you are only offering a limited amount of unique content that can match perfectly for the niche chosen. The thing about converting that is so important is that you want to be limited on what type of content you want to provide. For example, a half nude woman or a video that is only a couple of minutes long. You want your user to build up and pull out their credit card and blow some money not just use the content and go on with their day.

    As far as SEO it is completely different. We still rely on directories to build up and honestly it is the best way to go if you can't afford backlinks. Adult does have a unique trading website you can try out called linkspun.com, it is a site that you can trade links on. We are the same as mainstream as in the effect of building web 2.0s for links, buying advertising for traffic, and sending traffic to the site.

    With adult you want really unique niche-related links and they truly have to be strong ones that will boost you up in the ranking. Referral traffic is terrible in adult, the easiest and best traffic to convert is search engine.

    I have had tube sites that convert at 1:30000, and I have had blogs that convert at 1:240. It honestly just depends.
     
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    Thanks for the insight. There's no way I'd try cracking the niche. I guess it's either you work in the adult niche or you don't. Never met many seoers that dabble in both.

    Those conversion rates seem pathetic though. Mostly a numbers game I guess.
     
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    g_b_c Newbie

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    are adult related domain names valuable?
     
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    It truly is a number game, but I can tell you one thing, Adult traffic is generally easy to build, but when you are in a specific niche, it is possible to convert but it comes in lower numbers so the daily conversion is not always going to happen.
     
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  7. neweaver

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    Depends on what you have. .com EMDs are still valuable depending on what you have. You can check decent prices on sedo.com, but if is .xxx forget it. You really need a .com to be able to sell it unless the domain is killer. It can take time to sell a domain so you may have to hold it for months until you find a buyer.
     
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    g_b_c Newbie

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    what type of value what you place on StickItIn.me?
     
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    Honestly nothing and I am sorry to say it. I have had similar domains that are way better and I couldn't even get a registration fee out of it. People are looking for more niche-related domains not something that could almost refer to the entire adult industry. .me domains aren't popular in adult at all.
     
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    g_b_c Newbie

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    thank you!
     
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    Since you mentioned it in your post - What is the best way to build traffic for a cam site? Do you even try to rank for keywords anymore, or focus on building a brand while having affiliates drive the traffic/producers to your site?
     
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    Well I have a couple of questions to ask before I answer these questions. Is this an in-house studio? Are the models on the cam site on your site only? Is the site a whitelabel? I will need a little more information before answering these questions.
     
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    To follow up on the cam site question. How would you promote a white label site?
     
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    You have several ways you can promote a white label. First thing I would do is build a blog or tube with videos and/or picture promoting content. Then I would find a niche-related cam site that I could promote relating to the content of the main site. That would be one way to make sales.

    Another way is to build a website with just a white label and try to send traffic to it. I would honestly proper niche-related cam and dating only since it is a tad easier to convert. Go to Juicyads and plugrush then purchase some ads relating to your whitelabel and hope for the best.

    Generally you are not going to be able to rank easily in the search engines for just a whitelabel page unless you throw a lot of quality backlinks to the domain.

    An idea would also be to purchase some blog posts and some text based link traffic to get some clicks to your whitelabel and hopefully some conversions. Try not to promote sponsors like livejasmin and adultfriendfinder, they are both done by so many people that is will be very difficult to convert those. Also make sure they have a decently long cookie incase the user wants to come back and buy some credits on a cam site.
     
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    You pretty much answered my question with this response, thank you.
     
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    Hi, thanks for doing this great Q&A. I had no idea about the numbers in the adult biz, but I imagine the raw numbers to be just as great, that is, you convert badly but you get absurd traffic(?).

    Sent you a PM about a specific question, hope you can give me an idea.
     
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    That is correct. A lot of affiliates are averaging 1:5000 but they could be getting 110k hits a day. Traffic is way different than mainstream
     
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    Thanks for your PM reply about my inquiry. I realize giving out info is basically a consultancy and you're sharing this value with us. Appreciate it.
     
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  19. neweaver

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    No problem. I am here for you guys so fire away.

    I also provide services for adult writing and keyword research, but that is for a different thread one day.
     
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    The only one thing is bad about Adult is a conversation rate, but there is always will be a money made in one.