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Helping a newb in guiding him to get his page ranked!!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by str1d3r, Nov 14, 2010.

  1. str1d3r

    str1d3r Registered Member

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    Hello community!

    Ive just recently started to dedicate some of my time into IM. And i must say i have read tons and tons of usefull articles on this omg really awesome forum.

    I have discovered that alot of forum members are really nice and are willing to help the new ones create some bank.

    I have just started my new venture on a post that i read here on BHW. The project is in the slightly adult/naughty niche.

    I have read alot of people selling backlinks and programs that can create backlinks etc..

    But what would be fit for me? I wanted some feedback before i just start randomly buying services and programs.

    Much thanks for giving me your precious time in your busy agenda.

    Greetings.

    IM newb 1st class!
     
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  2. Jesperj

    Jesperj Power Member

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    Well to begin with, get some social bookmarks, they come pretty cheap. and some directory submissions.

    since you proberly got a new domain, then start slowly with backlinks manually or automated.

    Scrapebox is a cheap tool and so powerful.

    I dont know much about the naughty side of IM, but im sure some more will come give you some tips
     
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  3. str1d3r

    str1d3r Registered Member

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    thanks for you feedback!

    hoping for more tips!
     
  4. lucius

    lucius Power Member

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    how competitive is your keyword? by competition I refer to the top 10.
     
  5. xrumVolume

    xrumVolume Newbie

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    I'm new but how about Articles ? would that work
     
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  6. sksugo

    sksugo Junior Member

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    In my opinion, the best links come from article submission. If it's naughty themed try getting maybe 2 different articles with your keywords, and if they aren't too naughty you cans submit them to some web2.0 sites.

    Otherwise social bookmarking works ok, I wouldn't "spam" backlinks using services until your domain is at least a couple weeks old and you already have some backlinks that have settled.. It doesnt look good to G when a new domain all of a sudden spams backlinks. I recently did that to one of my domains who was on 2nd page google for easy keywords within 2 days of starting, I didnt even have many backlinks.. I did a blast using scrapebox and my site is gone from the rankings, it's been a week and I still havent seen my site back up there yet. My website didn't get banned but it's for sure sandboxed right now and being punished by google.

    I would start with building a few profile backlinks and web2.0 backlinks per day for at least a week. Then move on to bookmark services and possibly backlink services.

    Don't forget keyword rich content is more important than backlinks at first. You want to be able to rank for certain keywords, even if it's 10th page.. Then start making backlinks to work your way up the ladder.
     
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  7. str1d3r

    str1d3r Registered Member

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    i doubt its in the top 10..
     
  8. str1d3r

    str1d3r Registered Member

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    Thanks for your feedback, learned alot!
     
  9. johnbly341

    johnbly341 Junior Member

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    How tough is your competition on the first page of Google?

    You need to know things like:
    What is their PR?
    How many backlinks do they have?
    How old is their domain?
    Is the keyword in their domain name?

    Knowing this kind of info will help you decide:
    1. If you can compete
    2. How to approach your backlinking

    Good luck!
     
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  10. str1d3r

    str1d3r Registered Member

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    on advice of theguy2...
     
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  11. theguy2

    theguy2 Regular Member

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    dude dont give out your niche and site in this forum, nice idea btw
    Just build shit loads of various types of backlinks and do good onsite optimization
     
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  12. str1d3r

    str1d3r Registered Member

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    the reason why i gave the info out was because the idea was posted here on the forum, so people would alraidy know about it...

    but hey, you make a point so its removed :D

    thanks.
     
  13. str1d3r

    str1d3r Registered Member

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    Any more people who can help me? Or even help me get some free backlinks? :D

    Would be grateful forever!
     
  14. chichantre

    chichantre Junior Member

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    You can get almost all types of backlinks for free, you just need to go and do the work yourself.

    There are tonnes of free website directories. Go ahead and submit your site to a handful of those.

    Create a load of articles yourself and get submitting them to all (or just the more popular) free article directories.

    It's also free to comment on other peoples blogs and leave a backlink in the process.

    What have you done so far to build backlinks?

    Don't ask for anything free if you haven't even tried doing any of it for yourself yet, and especially if you don't even know what 'free' stuff your getting. It could harm you more than it could help you if you don't know what its used for. :rolleyes:
     
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  15. str1d3r

    str1d3r Registered Member

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    hey, thanks for posting..

    Yea im not only asking free stuff while doing nothing myself...

    I have been searching for high ranking blogs/forums where i can post and stuff

    but most of those blogs/sites review the post first before placing it..

    so not many have sticked.. and thats sad. wasted like 2 hours for 2 links.

    failed!
     
  16. chichantre

    chichantre Junior Member

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    Lol. nevermind dude. We've all been there...

    ...until Scrapebox came along! ;) CONSIDER it, and take some time to learn how you want to use it if/when you do buy it.

    For now...if money's a problem...Social Bookmarking and Article Marketing!

    When you do those two manually, there's usually zero risk and more often than not, everything sticks!...just takes forever. Both are free though!
     
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  17. luca6899

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    I would say:

    - Get a good UNDERSTANDING of your niche/micro niche (KNOW the keywords, How many links you will need to beat your competition, Advantages/Disadvantages of you AND your competition, so you can work the holes in your game too!

    - Once you KNOW your niche, it's time to do some serious keyword researching (Don't skip this because this is the FUNDAMENTALS of YOU ranking!) If you don't optimize your site with the RIGHT keywords (Right keywords are basically keywords that will get you traffic/conversions/clicks/whatever the way is your making money)

    - ON-SITE optimization (Use WEBCEO, and see what there is left)

    - Have optimized quality content ON your site (My recommendation is to have at least 5 unique content pages)

    - Build links (Build quality/relevant/high PR links, from DIFFERENT sources. Remember you have to look natural, if you have 200 links, and 190 of them are blog comments with "Lose weight" as a anchor text, you won't get far :p

    - Don't only build links to your home page. Cross/Interlink it to your other optimized pages too. (Remember! Link velocity & Quality matters)

    - See what your footprints can be (What can you make more undetectable? or do better?)

    - Use:
    Web 2.0
    Article Marketing
    Video Marketing
    Press releases
    Profile Linking
    Link bait

    These are a few things that you should learn a bit more about, and build links like this.
    Also a good "Link velocity" is also really important. Link velocity means the SPEED and QUALITY you build your links at. Check some more information on BHW or WF

    - Then... after you learn a bit more about link velocity you can kind of PLAN your attack. (Write things down...it helps :) )

    Now... You have the keywords that you want to rank with, the competition in your backpocket (you KNOW your competition), Now you have to keep on buildling quality links, over time. Consistent.

    - Analyze your traffic. Perfect your conversions. Fix holes in your IM

    Always post your problems in the forums, and people will definitely help you. If you are too lazy for this, YOUR problems will not be solved.

    Stay open for idea's, never stay with 1 niche/idea (Keep your fingers in many pie's) If you know your niche very well, by all means continue doing that...

    Hope this helped
    Luca
     
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  18. str1d3r

    str1d3r Registered Member

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    thanks luca!!

    youre walltext was what i was looking for.. a step for step battle plan!
    i have got alot to do!! @_@

    Thanks for your time :)
     
  19. luca6899

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    Remember this is not fully "STEP-BY-STEP" use a little bit of your own intuition. And what I forgot to put there is. Once you get all these things down. you can OUTSOURCE (Let other people do it for you!)

    Luca
     
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  20. str1d3r

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    thanks i will keep that in mind!