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Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by eagleshot, May 8, 2012.

  1. eagleshot

    eagleshot Junior Member

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    Some of this might be old news to some of you. However, I feel that this will help a lot of you gain your rankings back.

    Instead of bitching & whining about the recent update, I went ahead and decided to do some research. I contacted every guru I know in the industry that where trusted and respected. I have also visited several of the top informative websites with recent blog posts on this subject. I have also done some reverse engineering to see why people are ranking on the top after the change. I figured with all this, it would give me enough concrete information on how to proceed.

    So... Here are a few tips that I think will help you all out moving forward.

    #1. Spammy links are getting discounted. It's just that simple. No more AMR blasts, Scrapebook blasts, SeNuke blasts (with out tier 2/3 linking) or Xrumer blasts. Any link without authority is simply hurting your website.

    #2. Anchor text - This is extremely important. Make sure you are using several anchor texts. No more "exact phrase" anchors only. If you have a one keyword website, make at least 5-10 variations of the keyword. You should also be using "click here" "website here" type anchor texts.

    Also, this is the biggest pointer on this subject. Google bots are not looking for words or phrases directly before & after your anchors. For instance, let's say you are trying to rank for "baseball cards". When you are not using that exact anchor phrase, make sure to put that directly before or after your anchor. If you are using the anchor "click here" it would look something like this (If you would like to get information on the best baseball cards "click here"). Google with associate your anchor with the word directly before and after the anchor.

    #3. Take away any ads above the fold. Google is paying attention to adsense ads that are placed directly below the header, or at the top of your main content. Start placing ads below the fold. I know it's not as effective, but your rankings will start to improve.

    #4. Blog networks - We all know they got hit hard. They will continue to be hit if you are not using a good network. I would only use private networks until the dust settles. It's funny because I have 3 websites where I'm only using blog networks, all of these sites have gone up in PR. However, I have dropped off in all of my rankings.

    #5. Homepage Links - Some people will tell me otherwise. But, I have seen enough now to say that they are still very effective. After doing lots of research on my competition, I have noticed that the websites with high PR paid homepage links are ranking very well. So as far as I'm concerned, they still work. I will say that they are relative homepage links though.

    #6. Keyword URL's - I have read that they are no longer effective. Yeah right! Go look at any niche, especially the ones I'm going after. These websites with the keyword in the URL are ranking higher than ever. If Google is doing what they said, then how could they discount this. The website is designed around one subject, that's what they are looking for (relative content). Websites (if not an authority) that are trying to rank for keywords that are not 100% relative on your sub-pages, are having a much more difficult time. So if your trying to rank for "baseball cards" and you have designed a sub-page about "football cards" it's much harder to rank these days. I would suggest making an entire website dedicated to "football cards" instead.

    Paid Directories - I have noticed the websites ranking are using paid directories. I feel that they are back in a major way. I wouldn't go blasting your website to shitty directories, but they are working from what I have seen.

    Link Exchanges - Don't waste your time... They have not worked for years, nothing has changed on this subject.

    Social Marketing - Ok... This one is tough for me. Everyone I have spoke with tells me that it's vital to have Facebook, Google + & Twitter. They say that Google looks at this more than ever. I would say I'm on the fence. I have seen many websites in a few of my niches that owned their keyword for many years, that are using social marketing as a major traffic source get completely creamed with the new update. I have fan pages on many of my websites where my rankings took a big hit. I have also included Google+ and Twitter on a few websites where I have increased my rankings big-time. I would say, it's not going to hurt you, but it's not the be all end all.

    SEO is a crazy game. Everyone (including me) has an opinion. In many cases it's just fluff. You need to take this, and many other opinions with a grain of salt. However, I feel strongly about my opinions.
     
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  2. kegnum

    kegnum Senior Member

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    "Link Exchanges - Don't waste your time... They have not worked for years, nothing has changed on this subject."

    Beg to differ. I have a few sites that rank just with blogrolls. These are also the few sites that were not effected by G updates at all.

    This is what happens when people talk right out of their ass. This is also why I never take these amateur tutorials to heart.
     
  3. eagleshot

    eagleshot Junior Member

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    Never had any luck with it... Like I said... Just my opinion.
     
  4. jollymonsa

    jollymonsa Junior Member

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    I do not think that ANY site that hits just 1 topic is going to be as long term effective at keeping its rank, like comment spamming. A lot needs to be spread over a large area. The blog networks had been a fast and easy solution somewhat, looks like a little 2 easy. If they have spread it far and wide, wouldn't have been such a hit. I didn't get hurt in any meaningful fashion however so I don't have a "dust settling effect" going on. Feel for ya that do but wide net next time :) catch more fish. FTR I make sure to have a balanced presence on all social channels, maintain velocity at a ramped up pace every month slightly, and do comments, profiles, and everything else under the sun...except blog networks... I call them microsites... sounds nicer.
     
  5. grafx77

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    Nothing about the OPs post was "amateur" dickhead. It was well laid out, explained clearly, and he did state it was what he found to be true, but not entirely gospel.

    By stating that you think "link exchanges" are still relevant make you seem horribly "amateur". I mean come on....your still wasting your time with link exchanges? That shit is sooooo 1990ish! LOL. Sure it may work 10% of the time, but there are 100s of other ways to rank your websites well besides that bullshit.
     
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  6. jhonson5

    jhonson5 Power Member

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    Great tips man. Would come in use. This penguin is getting on my nerves. Thanks for the share.
     
  7. manny521

    manny521 Supreme Member

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    I have been experimenting with this, placing my keyword either before or after the generic anchor and I seem to be seeing some decent improvement.

    The progress is a little slow so I don't want to say anything decisive at this point, but I am going to continue to do this as I am seeing some improvement.
     
  8. bigfred

    bigfred Power Member

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    Nice tips thanks
     
  9. n30nGUY

    n30nGUY Newbie

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    From what I've seen, diluting anchor text distribution is important. And the other thing is to be careful when running WordPress, make sure you aint got any dodge plugins or themes!
     
  10. VIC SEO

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    how you can say this advice helps us? Did you test it on your blogs? I would try to do it .LInk exchanges work if we do it with the same niche site.