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Help With Ripoff Reports

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by corporate hustler, Nov 13, 2008.

  1. corporate hustler

    corporate hustler Newbie

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    So i have a client that has a few ripoff reports written about them that come up as the second result when you put the company into google. My client says that the reports are not legitimate and they their competitor made them. Since you cant get Ed Magnuson to remove the reports they have asked me to get the reports bumped down off the first page. I was thinking about throwing up a wikipedia article and doing some company profiles on various sites to achieve this.

    So my question is what is the fastest way to get these reports off the first page?
     
  2. riftdawg

    riftdawg Registered Member

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    I've done this same exact thing for a client... create a bunch of pages on high ranking sites for the company's name, squidoo lense, digg page, linked in, directory submission (superpages, dex), etc. Anything you can submit to with the companies name. Gradually those will fill the first page and push ripoff report down to page 2. You need to probably make 10 to be safe since google shows 10 per page so just in case some of your links don't index well you will be safe :)
     
  3. jrm9

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    I would like to see if this method works for you. I am currently trying to get all ripoff and scam reports off the first page when you type in my online company....ANY HELP PLZ!!!!!!???????
     
  4. iamsgf

    iamsgf Regular Member

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    Where are the pages hosted? that would be a pont of call to get a legal letter sent to the site owners. if you get no joy then xrumer the hell out of them.........
     
  5. twinkletoes

    twinkletoes Junior Member

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    To add to riftdawg -

    Some free wordpress or blogger blogs will work. You can rank quickly. Just if you're using wordpress.com be sure there is no affiliate crap on there. Tags in wordpress.com have put me on front page for the blog in just a couple of days.

    A hub pages page will go up quick too, but may be harder to keep on the front page results.

    Do a squidoo, and I'm guessing the site is on the first page so you are up to 5.

    See if you can get some outsiders with good content related blogs to do some real reviews. Look around on the about.com site for an appropriate reviewer and contact them. Do an associated content article.
     
  6. corporate hustler

    corporate hustler Newbie

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    The client is a national company that does business all over the country. The good news is that if you put the company name in quotes there are only around 600 competitors which is barely anything. So far I have been able to use Digg to get some things on the top page but I have to bump off everything.

    I will try the things that people have suggested so far. Thanks for the input and help everyone.
     
  7. scubaslick

    scubaslick Regular Member

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    ROR carries some weight, but remember that if you're fighting for the company name, they can only carry so much weight.

    Content of all kinds (video, pictures, audio) related to the vertical, but SEO'd to the company name will definitely help. Wikipedia will generally get flagged out, but if you write it VERY "third party" and neutral, you can get it to stick. The main thing is to add content that is valuable to the customer of your client if possible. My theory is that this is due to the amount of time people spend on your target domain for things OTHER than the company name. I have no evidence, but let me create a theoretical example to support my thinking.

    Your company sells soda fountains.

    The competition creates ROR reports pretending to be the owner of a convenience store, or a small movie theater or whatever. They use your name.

    Each report adds 10 negative points to the company name in the serps.

    You create content about fountains. You tube videos, a catalog of old fountains from the turn of the century, new ways to calibrate old fountains to maximize profits, how to recycle parts of fountains etc. Each of these mentions your company name. Each one is worth. .05 points.

    Until someone gets to it and sticks. Then it gets .05 x the number of visits x the length of the visit.

    Lots of people come visit this information overload using google toolbar, finding the site through the serps, through your social marketing efforts etc. and spend a lot of time soaking up this info. Your bounce rate from the serps is very low. The back arrow is almost never used. People watch your videos. They read your blogger blogs.

    Over time, this juicy, helpful content climbs up the results and pushes the bad stuff down because it becomes less and less relevant because your score simply overwhelms the bad stuff by being searched, surfed and used more often.

    I've done this. It works. I can't "prove" that this is why it does, but I pulled a ROR completely off the 1st page for a company name over the last 120 days or so using all of the above.

    Hope it helps.

    edit: forgot to add:

    Part of this is just page geography. The sublistings take up as much room as a second listing. You know, the links under the company name to multiple pages of the site. Get your description text as long as you can on the company name domain to take up another line or two. Don't just let it sit at one line of text. Doesn't matter if it really means anything as long as it takes up another line in the serp description.

    I also managed to get some press releases from some well respected partner companies with the company name in H1 and title. This added a little more mojo.

    There are lots of little tricks you can do. The easiest is to make sure that no one else posts on ROR by the way. [edit again: not easiest, but the most effective]

    New content is good content. if ROR has nothing but stale old content... ;)
     
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  8. zhagijs1

    zhagijs1 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I don't know how you feel about SEnuke if u don't want to pay costly xrumer. I know there are some people who are not fans of this software but I works great for me, just my suggestion.
     
  9. billygood

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    I would like to offer you some advice.

    I have worked for people that have had SEC violation which show up 1 or 2 when people do a name search. so let me start by saying this, ask them how much money will they make extra if they vanish from the first page. Knowing this, then you can ask for the minimal charge of 10K ( try for 10% of the savings, since it should be greater )

    Now some of the rules I have used with great success, these are the stealth parts, not the seo parts which have already been mentioned.

    ALL-WAYS use a google less computer to do anything that can touch the websites you are working on. google already knows everything, why make it easy.
    register each domain separately, phony names and using mail drops with VCC's, each domain is registered for 5 years. ( google is a registrar and has cross linking of domains with keywords to prevent too much of a keyword belonging to 1 party )
    Always use different writer per domain, it might cost you on average about .25 a word, but natural language analysis will give you away every time.

    I prefer a different site design, this way it always looks different.

    try to blend in your clients past with a positive spin, not easy but well worth it for the client ( people do weird searches when looking into peoples past )

    try creating a fake friends and networking page, write highly flamboyant reviews about your client ( well your writers write it )


    DONT FORGET, CHARGE LOTS OF MONEY FOR THIS!!!
     
  10. tb0n3

    tb0n3 Newbie

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    I had a client on ripoffreport and mysteriously last week he received a call from an individual that said for $1400 they would get it lower from #2 down much further. Within a few days, the listing went from #2, to the bottom of the first page. Client paid him the $1400.00.

    I wonder how this would have been accomplished. His web designer has been building web 2.0 and other content sites for over a year trying to accomplish what this individual did with a couple o days. Any ideas?
     
  11. silentHQ

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    PM me for a solution to the aforementioned problems.
     
  12. nasdevelopment

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    What is the most effective action to take in removing a ripoff report? Press releases on lots of different content?
     
  13. Laubster

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    Rank a: LinkedIn, Facebook, Twitter, Google+ and YouTube channel/profile. Then rank 2 YT videos for his name. This alone will push the RipOffReport down to the bottom as that's 7 sites in addition to his site. From there add in Yelp and another authority site. And keep in mind, these are all authority sites, so you can blast with spam and rank them fast.
     
  14. Nigel Farage

    Nigel Farage BANNED BANNED

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    I wonder if you can neg-SEO a ripoff report page?
     
  15. RightInTwo

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    It won't work. ROR has too much authority and it won't have an impact.
     
  16. MadStacks

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    You could use some social networking sites like Facebook to rank of rip off report and then create a few blogs like on
    blogger and rank them with decent reviews.
     
  17. Gogol

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    If your client has deep pocket, and if they are really not legitimate, sue them. else leave the job and get life. No matter who tells you what, no one would be able to do anything, specially because your client thinks it is done by the competitor. The only way to remove that review is by making the reviewer remove it. There isn't an alternative way.
     
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    I feel stupid :p