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[HELP] Will rearranging of categories affect my ratings?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by wizard04, Sep 18, 2014.

  1. wizard04

    wizard04 Elite Member

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    Will rearranging of categories affect my ratings?
    I don't have enough space in the header for new categories. I am planing to put a few of my main categories under one new main category, they will be a subcategory.

    Example:

    My categories now

    Orange | Banana | Carrot | Broccoli

    Rearranged category

    Fruit | Vegetable | New category
    sub category sub category
    Orange Carrot
    Banana Broccoli



    Will changing my categories affect my ranking?
     
  2. Execute

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    If you are just changing the layout of your site you should be ok, the ranking issues come when you have to change the URL. So if you changed yoursite.com/category1/page to something else then that could cause a rank change.
     
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  3. wizard04

    wizard04 Elite Member

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    Yes I am changing the layout not the url of the articles.

    website.com/category69/sample-page

    to website.com/category/category69/sample-page

    I have to many main categories I want to put them as subcategories in few new main categories.
     
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    Asif WILSON Khan Executive VIP Premium Member

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    That IS changing the URL. You will need to redirect the old URL to the new

    http://moz.com/blog/url-rewrites-and-301-redirects-how-does-it-all-work
     
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    this is a sample of how the category will be changed

    website.com/category69/sample-page

    to website.com/category/category69/sample-page

    But when someone click to open the article the URL will be

    website.com/sample-page
     
  6. DannyZhang

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    I had the same problem. I run a ecommerce website and I did a re-structuring to my categories. Wanted to silo the content so the items are better organized.

    Painful process because I had to de-index all the old pages when the new pages are up to avoid duplicate content.

    The change is up for a week and here are some of the results:
    Rankings for main keywords dropped a few positions
    Important message in GWT that important pages have been removed

    I'm still trying to convince myself that this is a good idea in the long term but we'll see. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.
     
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    I'm confused right now, I don't know what to to, changing the categories don't change the URL of the articles but as DZ pointed out his problem I am worried to rearrange my categories.
     
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    If the URL isn't changing then you shouldn't have any problems IMO, if the change will only affect the menu then it should be OK.
    Is it a html site, WordPress or other CMS?
     
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    Its a wordpress site, the permalink structure is website.com/%postname%/.

    So I'll be fine?

    I know this shuld not be a problem, but somehow I am little paranoid about it, I don't know why.
     
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    It pays to be paranoid, but I think you will be fine.
    If you are'nt changing the permalink and the URL isn't affected, then I don't see any problem.
     
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    Thanks W!
    Only one way to find out, I'll do it in the next few days an see what happens :D
     
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    I agree with WI30SN, if you aren't changing the actual URL then you should be fine. Just keep the structure as %postname%.
     
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    you are adding a new layer to your inner page layout template so your rankings will drop.
    To get them back up faster you could link every /categoryXY/ back to the newly added cluster.

    the permalink structure just keeps your post URL the same (posts won't be seen as part of the category but as stand alone) but since crawlers find them on your site under the new format (website.com/category/category69/post) they too will go down in rank.
     
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    Making any changes to a site can have an unwanted affect on rankings but it doesn't mean it is guaranteed.

    Can you provide evidence of your claims, as a post/page can belong to more than one category, can't it?
    The only problem that will arise that I can see, is if there is a problem with google crawling the site.
    As long as the URL hasn't changed, then any links pointing to the page will still be fine.

    http://moz.com/blog/setup-wordpress-for-seo-success
    http://www.searchenginejournal.com/how-to-avoid-seo-disaster-during-a-website-redesign/
     
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    If you haven't changed your permalink structure of your posts then should be fine. It is sometime a good idea to noindex the various hierarchies that would all either give the same content.