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[Help] Understanding IPs management on a PBN

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by rtraphic, Oct 20, 2014.

  1. rtraphic

    rtraphic Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Hi guys. I've been reading differents topics about how to build my own PBN.

    What i want to ask, is related to the IPs of the site. Everyone recommend to purchase hosting that allows u giving each site a different IP, so it's harder for Google to realize that your PBN is, actually, a PBN.

    My question is this:

    If i build my websites with wordpress, and i host each website on a different IP, would i have to use proxies to log in to wordpress admin panel to build the site?

    Otherwise, i would be logging always with the same IP to all the sites (my home IP), does this have anything to do with the PBN security? Or my home IP doesn't matter?

    I'm struggling trying to understand if you need to host each website on a different IP AND use proxies to manage this websites from different IPs too, or if my local IP doesn't matter.

    Thank you very much.
     
  2. traveler329

    traveler329 Registered Member

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    i dont know for sure, but i just don't see any way for google, or anyone else other than the host itself, to know from what IP you log into your site
     
  3. ASithLord

    ASithLord Junior Member

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    I am extremely cautious when it comes to building and managing PBNs - ok, maybe paranoid is more like it. At a minimum I would suggest not using chrome and making sure you are not logged into any google service when you are building. On an ongoing basis be cautious about how/where you use things like G analytics and webmaster tools, if at all. They are looking for you, don't make it easy.
     
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  4. ritesh

    ritesh Senior Member

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    Just avoid using chrome and don't login in Gmail while access the PBN. That should be it.
     
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  5. alexthepbndude

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    rtraphic,

    When people say get a different hosting account for each PBN site (in order to obtain a unique IP), they are talking about the PBN site's IP, not your personal IP. You want your network spread across multiple unique A class IPs from as many different companies as possible with different DNS, etc. You also want it wide spread geographically too. Don't buy hosting in US alone.

    Next, there have been various conspiracy theories pushed out lately about Google using NSA type of footprint technology to spot if you're the admin of all those sites logging in and posting content, but I believe that's a little bit too much hype at the moment. However, it has been proven that WordPress uses some Google Fonts by default and those who have done their homework do realize that some data can definitely be retrieved via the fonts API. So, it definitely makes sense to secure everything properly from the very beginning.

    At the end of the day, if you really want to stay safe, create author/editor accounts for your WP PBN sites and use TOR when accessing or posting to them.

    Alex
     
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  6. rtraphic

    rtraphic Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Thank you everyone for ur kind answers.

    Thank you alex for ur kind reply. For doing what you recommend, however, i'd have to log atleast once in every wp-admin panel. Then, do you recommend using proxies for deleting all possible IP tracking odds?
     
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    As Alex mentioned you can't be 100% sure but it becomes difficult to use lots of proxys (cost) to manage your PBN sites... If you using analytics, webmaster or any kind of Google services you are giving data to Google so stay away from them. I don't think Google can judge if you are admin of site or normal author or user... Your host will not share that data but may be Google Fonts giving them some data... If you can use tor or proxy it will help further in covering footprint...

    You can also use email to post on your wordpress sites... so no need to login on them... You can setup auto update of wordpress and plugins so no need of regular maintenance... Anyway in the end quality matters if you want your PBN to stick for long run...
     
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  8. SEO Power

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    You don't need different IPs to log into the dashboard of your PBN sites because Google doesn't have access to your IP log - only your web host does. Your IP can only be seen by Google whenever you use Google search or any Google services. So, just keep logging into your dashboard without proxies.