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Help needed!!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by cch233, Sep 6, 2007.

  1. cch233

    cch233 Registered Member

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    Hi,

    I'm a newbie in blackhat seo and I'm very happy i found this forum that talking blackhat seo. I think i can learn a lot of things here.

    About blackhat seo, I have some problems and need some advices.

    I started blackhat seo about 2 month ago. In the first month, i read a lot of ebooks (paid and free stuff) to know what is blackhat. The 2nd month, i started to learn how to do it and use softwares to build my sites .

    As a newbie, I think my results was not bad, ~$50/day.:D . Not bad, right?

    But I have a problem that bothers me a lot. My sites get BANNED by google:( . I have 3 blackhat sites, all of them got banned. I don't know why?

    I use RSS Evolution to build my sites and use blogger blog to get backlinks.

    I have heard someone doing blackhat seo and his sites last over 6 months, but my sites got banned within 7 days (with the same promotion method and the same software to generate sites).

    How about your blackhat sites, how long do your sites last in search engine? and do you have any methods or tricks that will not be banned by google? And if i get banned, any ways to get it back?

    I have read some reports and they say that a brand new site, if the site gain too many back links in a vary short time. Google with notice you and de-list your site (i use blogger blog to get a lot of backlinks). Is that true?

    Any advice is appreciated.


    Thanks.
     
  2. gts6

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    did you change or create new templates in the rssEvolution to get rid of the footprints? if not that can be the cause, or also make sure you dont add too many links too soon, do it slow and gradually
     
  3. cch233

    cch233 Registered Member

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    do it slow and gradually?

    Can you explain more about that? how many link and how often should i add?
     
  4. gts6

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    just a little at a time. if you get 25,000,000 links to a site as soon as it goes up, it is cause for alarm.

    get maybe 10-20 a day, every day. by the end of the month you'll have a nice amount. continue this way, by 2 months you'll have even more.

    slow and build gradually if you want the site to last. unless you are in it for a quick buck and want to get listed, make $, get banned, and start over again with a new site, you can continue to go that way as well
     
  5. cch233

    cch233 Registered Member

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    Thanks for your help.
     
  6. DarkArts

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    I use to build a site, link it to blogger, post a few articles and social bookmark it. Then I wait a few days until it get indexed. After it get indexed then I'm starting to build links like mentioned by gts6. It works pretty good, none of them getting banned by SE.

    Although I thought its a little slow in the process, but I can live with it :)
     
  7. cch233

    cch233 Registered Member

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    thanks for sharing your experience.

    I'm ready for my 4th site. this time i change my templates and am going to build link slowly just like you suggest.

    So, wait for my update post.

    PS: while building links, do you add link with any software or manually?
     
  8. DarkArts

    DarkArts Registered Member

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    1. I add cloaked links with Search Engine Cloaker.
    2. Social bookmarking with ultrabookmarker
    3. Submitting article - IAS
    4. Stumbleupon - manual

    Just starting though, not too special. I have one site indexed in google in first page for several keywords, but the adsense click are not good... I don't know why :confused:

    Still tweaking and trying to figured it out. Anyone knows where to put adsense so I can get the best CTR?
     
  9. cch233

    cch233 Registered Member

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    About Search Engine Cloaker.

    Is it good to use and user friendly?

    please give me some more information? plan to buy it.
     
  10. DarkArts

    DarkArts Registered Member

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    I haven't try any cloaker before, SEC is the only one I have tried. I think it's done a pretty good job. And it have a build in tutorial so you just follow it step by step.

    You have to create your own templates or tweak the standard template a bit. It takes sometime to research your keyword and put them in the cloaker. If you want SEC to do its fully potential you must buy an additional plugin. I forgot how much the plugin cost, you better check it at their site.

    I remember testing SEC with a few random keywords without research too much, plug it to standard templates and launched the test site, still the site got 50-60 pages indexed in google about a week after it launched. Not too bad.

    You might also want to check their forums, there some tutorial and tips for using SEC.
     
  11. cch233

    cch233 Registered Member

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    thanks.

    i'll check it out.