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Help needed where my websites have been marked as Spam by Google

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  1. bargainsuk

    bargainsuk Newbie

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    I have a number of websites where I use a specific script that automatically builds an
    affiliate site with Amazon products. I understand that the design (template) isn't great
    but towards the end of last year my sites did great (£9999 in sales in December 2014)
    on the combined result of various websites.

    I know that I can get a great conversion rate from these domains/websites from the Amazon
    commission and from one website last month (November 2015) earned £120.

    I want a steady flow of traffic (advise / suggestions please) to these website and/or to resolve
    the issue with Google. 4 of my websites haven't been marked as spam and 1 in particular is generating
    my good earnings and the other 3 are gradually improving.

    I've been a member of BHW a while and I've helped other members occasionally where I could, so is there
    anyone out there that can help me resolve this, I'm willing to share a small percentage of what I earn based
    on help received.

    Feel free to PM or reply to this to ask me to PM you where necessary if you're able to help. I know I can earn
    well from these websites, I just need to get past the traffic hurdle. One final thing, web hosting isn't an issue
    as my websites are on a fast dedicated server that I rent.
     
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  3. bargainsuk

    bargainsuk Newbie

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    Hi, the sites show as an ecommerce site auto showing amazon products, as I've
    said though, some of them are not being marked as spam but others are, I'm unsure
    if thats because Google hasn't noticed those yet or if something is different about them.

    I've had difficulty trying to identify what may be different and the specific reason Google
    are removing the sites from their Listings, so if I can resolve this or gain regular genuine
    traffic from elsewhere I know that I can make sales and commission easily.

    I'm happy for a moderator to move to the joint ventures section if this is the best place
    for it but I'm unsure how to request such a move.
     
  4. archon10

    archon10 BANNED BANNED

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    I'm assuming you got the "pure spam" message, and as someone who has seen plenty of review sites that get this message, the content is usually pretty damn shitty. Pure spam basically means "do over... site is awful" from Google.
     
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    bargainsuk Newbie

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    I appreciate your input into this but if my website was that shitty I wouldn't have versions of the site (in different niches) generating £1000s in sales for Amazon.

    It is laid out as an ecommerce website with categories, a search box, an ability to track amazon prices on specific products and to bookmark products. It also
    has a shopping cart.

    Admittedly some of them don't have any extra helpful posts within them but still do well. It wasn't built using Wordpress.

    Like I said, some are marked as spam by Google and others are untouched. Whether on not they're listed on Google doesn't matter
    if I can send a source of genuine traffic because they convert very well. I just hoped someone out there could evaluate one of my sites
    and suggest ways to get the spam label removed.
     
  6. archon10

    archon10 BANNED BANNED

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    I've seen plenty of pure Amazon affilliate sites get hit. You got caught, and they won't lift it until you basically overhaul your whole site.

    And don't do what some of these idiots do and delete all content and file a reconsideration request. Dumbest fucking thing ever and then they wonder why it's rejected.
     
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  7. bargainsuk

    bargainsuk Newbie

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    archon10, you mean use the domain for non-affiliate purposes? Google cannot dictate websites having/not having affiliate products as
    there is a huge affiliate industry and many Website Businesses rely on their affiliates to bring in sales. So define 'overhaul'.
    I'm not an average user so I don't mind you getting technical in your reply. I used the prewritten script for ease not because I couldn't write
    it myself. Is it a case of adding more content so it becomes more than just amazon products? Ideas from anyone appreciated. As things
    stand these websites convert whenever they receive traffic so if someone can send me a steady stream of google traffic that converts I'll split
    the commission 50/50. I'd rather have 50% of something than the sites sat there unused.
     
  8. Raffy

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    I run quite a few websites similarly to what you describe and in my experience whether or not a thin affiliate website gets deindexed or not comes down mostly to chance. My advice is to keep building out more sites and eventually you'll get some that stick. You're typically in the clear if the site lasts more than a few months without being deindexed and it usually takes at least 6 months to see the full potential with this sort of site.

    I've found that sometimes a site will get deindexed within a few weeks while another built with the same template and content will last for years and never get hit. I've done lots of testing and can't nail down anything in particular that causes a site to get deindexed. A few tips I can share with you:

    -Submitting large sitemaps increases the chances of getting deindexed, especially once you start going over half a million or so pages in a sitemap. A sitemap larger than 10 million will almost always get you deindexed.

    -Using generic templates such as default wordpress themes or a vanilla bootstrap layout seems to stick better than a very custom design.

    -Proper silo structure with 3-5 levels works much better than wordpress's structure or other random site structure but requires custom coding (can't be done in wordpress). On the other hand I also know people who are very successful with the default wordpress structure so your mileage may vary.

    My advice is to take the script you're currently using to generate your sites and automate every single step of the process so you can quickly replace the deindexed sites. The script should allow you to paste in a list of domains and keywords with a submit button to build out, upload, and configure your new sites with 1 click.
     
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  9. bargainsuk

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    Thanks Raffy, your advice is appreciated. The irony is that a few moments ago Amazon decided to close my account because it is related to a previously closed account, the account
    they're referring to was wrongfully closed almost a year ago for the same reason when their reason was invalid because it wasn't related to a closed account. They never paid me the £1000+
    outstanding commissions earned in less than 2 months and they stopped replying to my emails when I tried to resolve it. I had another account so I started using it and they've been paying
    me without issue until today when I earned £120 last month and previous earnings were around £30-£40. Guess I jumped into their headlights! I'll try again to dispute the closure but based on last
    time I doubt I'll manage to make them listen.
     
  10. archon10

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    No, I'm not saying "no affiliate sites," but I've seen very few sites from users who take advice from here that are worth any value. The site must bring value to the index or the reviewer will remove it. Thin Amazon affiliates that have poor content or create thin content (thin does not mean word count like so many people think) with no value will be removed if they go in front of a reviewer.
     
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  11. Raffy

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    Speaking from experience Amazon is one of a handful of ecommerce companies that won't allow thin sites. Which is too bad but fortunately most every other ecommerce affiliate program out there is going to accept thin sites in my experience.
     
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    Hi archon, I appreciate your follow up reply. The sites in question allow the visitors to register, bookmark products and to set up price alerts where a cronjob runs regularly
    and then emails them when the price reaches their ideal target. I don't consider that no added value. I also add niche related articles. The design isn't
    the latest with bootstrap etc. but it is 100% score on google speed test for mobile sites and between 89 and 100% on desktop sites and runs very quickly, many
    customers use mobile devices to make purchases. It clearly says in multiple places that they will checkout on Amazon so I'm within all the Amazon terms and conditions
    and added value above affiliate products from a Google perspective. If they were anything like the sort of sites I've seen listed by Google as pure spam then I wouldn't
    get a single sale. I accept that there is a chance that the ones not listed as spam are the lucky ones and it may/may not happen in the future.

    I did customise the script I bought which is why the sites run so fast, minified script and css etc. Thanks everyone for their responses and help, I've got a few things to
    think through as to what my next steps will be.
     
  13. archon10

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    It's hard to say without a URL, but I've seen a lot of sites that have been hit and they were completely justified. If the whole business model is to steal search engine traffic just to push people to Amazon, you're gonna have a hard time if Google catches it. There have been a few times that I've thought the reviewer was too harsh, but it's very rare and Google is cracking down on thin affiliates again.

    You're basically creating sites that google doesn't want in their serps, so I would churn and burn them if I were you instead of hoping that they'll be longterm.