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Help - My suidoo lens outranks my actual Website

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by spydj, Feb 9, 2010.

  1. spydj

    spydj Registered Member

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    Hi There,I am very new to IM, so please have some patience with me :)I have launched a website (for a local offline niche) and created a squidoo page, ident.ca profile and got some backlinks.Now it´s indexed, but the problem is, that Squidoo and indenti.ca outrank my original site. Thats normal? Will it change? What should I do now to get my site higher in serps? Simply keep building backlinks?Thanks for your help!
     
  2. nodoubtgq79

    nodoubtgq79 Junior Member

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    do you have the same content on the sites?

    you should NEVER duplicate your content on your own website

    go change your content
     
  3. spydj

    spydj Registered Member

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    Yes i have had the same content, but i have published on my website first and than on squidoo.... I am going to change it right now.... anything else I could do?
     
  4. spydj

    spydj Registered Member

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    Update: Soon after removing content from my squidoo lens, my website sky rocket up :D I am now spot 3 for my main keyword and spot 1 for my second keyword :) I guess it realy did help to remove duplicate content and reping the site. Now I just hope I can stay up there. Do you guys think building 3-5 backlinks a day will be enough to keep rank 1 (its a low competition niche)?
     
  5. wisefool

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    Build more links to your site.
     
  6. spydj

    spydj Registered Member

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    One last question: is it okay if I add more niche related lenses to one squidoo account or should I use a new account for every new niche? Thanks!
     
  7. spydj

    spydj Registered Member

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    how many would you suggest to keep my rankings? I dont want to look spammy and risk getting banned or removed or whatsoever by google. I think for that small competition niche, 5 should be enough.... but please let me know how many you would suggest? Thanks!
     
  8. Jason_parker700

    Jason_parker700 Regular Member

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    change your keywords a little bit or try removing some tags.
     
  9. spydj

    spydj Registered Member

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    thanks for the tips! but the main issue has been solved already (my main site is rank1 and rank 3 now ^^) Now I am just wondering, if I should create a new account @ all those web 2.0 services to promote another site, or can i use the accounts I have and simply create a new lens/ a new hub etc for each new niche i want to promote ?
     
  10. Dangazzm

    Dangazzm Regular Member

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    When you rank first for a keyword and have useful content, manually building links is really uneseccary if you have had the spot for a while, like say 6 months. So keep building 10-15 links every other day, do some commenting and bookmarking ETC.

    After this long you kinda become the goto site for your keyword and you will get REAL natural backlinks in which people link to you when they write about it, which is best case scenario and you won't need to build links anymore just monitor your ranks every week or so to make sure you are still on top and getting all the traffic you need.
     
  11. TommyCrenshaw

    TommyCrenshaw Newbie

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    Google will try and cite the original source of the content. really, IMO, they do not do a very good job with it. I've seen them make the wrong version of the content the original source many times over.

    I would rewrite the content on your site (since you can't set up a canonical tag on Squidoo I don't think), build some high quality links (like Dangazzam said) and make sure you have all the on-page seo components nailed down on your site. Link to internal pages, not just the main site URL with other relevant high ranking pages. Use your keyword as the anchor text (but use variety so it looks natural), and keep new content coming out on your site on a weekly basis.

    You can use the use the same account but if the 2.0 sites are one's that look down on bookmarking your own stuff, get another account and use that.
     
  12. spydj

    spydj Registered Member

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    Thanks a lot for all your tips. I am going to do like you guys said and report back in a couiple of days - week to let you know if i am still on page 1 or not^^
     
  13. nodoubtgq79

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    yep..never duplicate content from your own site

     
  14. sherone

    sherone Newbie

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    Make more good backlinks for your original site
     
  15. goodtimes

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    just make sure you keep the backlinks coming in and you should be able to hold your spot
     
  16. spydj

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    So, thanks again for all your help guys. Now I have kept building 4,5 backlinks today but my website has dissapeared from google. I do not even find it anymore when searching it directly. Webmaster Tools still says its indexed though...... So thats probably just some serp dance and the site will be back in search results next days or do you think I have been building too much backlinks on a short period of time and now I am punished? ... sry for my bad english ^^
     
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    No1 has some experience to share with a website dissapearing from rank2 within 12 hours? Will it ever be back?
     
  18. spydj

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    Website is still not showing up. Even when I search inurl:www.mysite.com etc..... What should I do now? Wait till it´s back (will it ever come back?) and do nothing or should i continue building backlinks as usual?
     
  19. jeyamaria72

    jeyamaria72 Newbie

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    Keep on posting new content and ping your new sitemap to google webmaster tools whenever you change the content or made a new post. Mention your sitemap location on your robots.txt. Check your website on Google webmaster tools fro any errors and rectify. My experience on new websites with keyword rich domains are the same you experiencing now. But, I was able to attain the same #1 position by posting new content, changing the content on the frontpage frequently. Building links only will not help for new websites. The more number of different thematic content will definitely bring your website to #1. Also try all the linking methods continuosly.:)
     
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    That's where Google is full of it.... it's a ridiculous situation many businesses end up with.