*$*$ [help} how to fight against fake unauthorised transaction disputes?? [help] *$*$

HoNeYBiRD said:

good question, i'm also interested in this
i had the same "issue" when i used e-junkie (but it's not an e-junkie only phenomenon)

i sent paypal the IP logs of the transactions what e-junkie send you in email after every successful purchase, but guess what, i always lost these type of disputes...
those dumbasses at paypal can't even compare or don't bother to compare the IP of the buyer and the IP of the person who logged in to the paypal account to make the purchase, because if they do this they can see that's exactly the same IP and compare this IP with that IP the scammer used before to login to his/her paypal account...so they can see, there's no unauthorized access

it can solve these cases in most of the time:
reason 1: the scammers are dumb enough to use the same IP, what they already used before to login to his/her paypal account
reason 2: they're a little bit smarter and they use proxies, but they can't use countless proxies doing the scamming activity, because paypal limits their account

so this way you might not automatically lose those unauthorized transaction claims, but win a few one

but idk the solution

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bbrez1 said:

What you could do is set up a simple script on your server that has a list of allowed access codes.

These codes would be unique for every customer. Like md5 of their paypal address or something.

The user would then need to input this code and you would have an encoded part of code in all your scripts that would actually call a script on your server to check if the code he is using is valid. If a user scams you, just remove his access code from the script on your server. He would get fucked back, HARD. And the script you sould to him would not execute.

Now of course this can be uncoded but it will be very hard for them and probably not worth it.

Super Fast Code:

PHP:

$userKey = "DHJ2352352156t4DDGFDISIDFHDIHS" // you would provide this code to him after buying

// encoded part
if(!checkIfValid($userKey))
 exit;


function checkIfValid()
{
$result = load("yoursite.com/index.php?authCode=$userKey"); // curl - you will need to write your own load function
if($result == null || $result == "true")
 return true;
else
 return false;
}

Just to make it clearer what I'm talking about. You could also make this for your tools. Notice the $result == null. This would still authorize it since if your website is currently offline you don't want your loyal customers website to go offline. Of course he could just remove this code and the script would work normally, but be sure to input some important variables in the encoded script that are needed for the script to run

Tell me what you think


Edit: But if you really want to f*** them back just put redirect scripts in the code instead of the "exit;", or show CPA offers or print out messages like :"I'm an idiot I like to scam people" and it would be visible on his website if he scams you, input tracking codes so you can track where he is using this scripts. Making look for him like he ran away with it and let him build a public website out of it and then massively redirect people... endless posibilities!

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Maruk said:

simply send a invoice or cd or floppy disk to their paypal address with a tracking code. You will win any dispute if you can show a tracking code.

Regards,
Mark

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jacksonice said:

Sending something will definitely will increase the cost as he will also have to pay Shipping.

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Maruk said:

Then send only an invoice. Make the Ebook $12 and you are covered.

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I understand the 45 days, but for digital products they won't even investigate. They probably understand that too many people would buy the product and ask for a refund just to get it for free. His refund was denied. This is from Paypal:

You have chosen to escalate this dispute to a PayPal claim. By ending
communication with the buyer, you are asking PayPal to investigate the case and decide the outcome. As part of our investigation, PayPal reviewed any communication you may have had with the buyer in the Resolution Center.

We have received a complaint from a buyer who stated that merchandise you sent them did not match your original description. The buyer is disputing the quality of goods associated with the transaction detailed below.

As you may already be aware, PayPal's Buyer Complaint Policy applies only
to the shipment of goods and not to complaints about the attributes or
quality of goods received through an off eBay transaction. Therefore, we
will not conduct an investigation into this matter at this time.
We do, however, reserve the right to begin an investigation within 180 days if we determine it is necessary


The important part being this:

PayPal's Buyer Complaint Policy applies only to the shipment of goods and not to complaints about the attributes or quality of goods received through an off eBay transaction.

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greentitanium said:

yeah, i often put in the description; DIGITAL GOODS. 99.9% of people dont know that they cant dispute it then! =))

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