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Hearing about people losing without BH methods

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by geass, Sep 10, 2011.

  1. geass

    geass Registered Member

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    Hello there,

    It really surprises and discourages me when I see people posting that they never did something wrong or blackhat but wind up losing all their money they have been working on for years!!

    It has been around 8 months I started a plan, I am now with three sites that are getting me around 700-800dollars/month. 300/month is coming from adsense.
    I am scared to scale the process after I hear about people losing their rankings without reasons.

    I would like to hear from the experts about this. Or maybe some testimonies about people who have been doing great internet business for years without that kind of problems.

    Thank you
     
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  2. Jeevs

    Jeevs Supreme Member

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    Blackhat with Adsense is a real bad idea...until you are too sure about what you are doing..black hat never really costed me anything..but if you go too silly and ambitious,you are likely to loose your money..just be steady,and KNOW what you are doing,don't be a blind follower.
     
  3. geass

    geass Registered Member

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    Yes but what kind of black hat methods are we talking about?
    I mean I use Blog comments, I use directory submissions, I use blog posts on high PR blogs but these articles are a bit tweeked with bestspinner and the like..

    I mean if I you use these with adsense, am I done?
    Do you recommend dropping adsense and focusing on the affiliate sales? Since it is adsense that could risk your rankings?
     
  4. Xellon

    Xellon Regular Member

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    I'd like to know myself. But from what I've heard, normally black seo methods work and don't get you site blacklisted if you have an old domain. But yea, I'd never break any terms when dealing with adsense.
     
  5. Jeevs

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    Using the blackhat tools without knowing its power is really a foolish and terrible thing to do,for example,xrumer is a damn powerful tool,if you use it directly on your website,result=sandbox,instead of this,use xrumer on your backlinks!Article directories and get passive advantages.Well its just an example.Like building too many crappy backlinks by scrapbox in a short period of time etc.These things can really hurt.But this does not mean blackhat=risk.You need to act wisely,get 10 good backlinks instead of 100 crappy ones...

    coming to what you do,article submission,blog comments and whatever you mentioned is all fine.Nothing to get worried as far as adsense is concerned.But DON'T TRY TO PLAY WITH ADSENSE.Like asking visitors to click ads etc,if you getting my point,Google knows what you eat in breakfast.

    Getting a steady income from adsense is a long process,if you can spend that much of time,money and can be patient then its good.But I would really advice you to go towards affiliate marketing.It converts much more.It takes years for a site to make you steady adsense income,and actually you'll need multiple sites for scaling things up.Whereas, if you apply the tricks shared here at BHW for affiliate marketing,that would fetch you some quick (I mean quicker than adsense) money.So for the summary,

    1.Nothing wrong with adsense+Blackhat,but keep in mind that BH is for link building and website promotion only.For traffic purpose.Don't mess with adsense.Just work on your site traffic and rest will come,use CTR themes for better results.

    2.Don't get stuck to adsense only,affiliate marketing is a must try.

    Hope that helps.took a while to write :D :p

    Cheers

    Jeevs
     
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  6. dizz

    dizz Elite Member

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    learn before used try slow before fast and think first this is word to live by

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  7. Xellon

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    so quality is better then quantity. Though I find it really hard to find pr 9 sites that are related to something like... say you have a blog on many affiliate programs.

    Am I right in saying that posting a comment on a non-related site will get you nowhere? Like If I post on a pr9 site about cat food and my site is on music.
     
  8. JohnnyRabbit

    JohnnyRabbit Supreme Member

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    Blackhat with Adsense = horrible idea

    Your earnings will be kept and you will get banned!

    Use CPA Offers on those sites mate!
     
  9. geass

    geass Registered Member

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    My friend I really appreciate your response. Thank you for taking the time.
    So if I understand right, those people who say that they got banned while doing white hat are rare.. right?

    I will PM you for a question if you don't mind.

    thank you very much
     
  10. JohnnyRabbit

    JohnnyRabbit Supreme Member

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    It is rare but there is still a small chance you could get banned from adsense even if you are doing whitehat, but it is rare.

    As long as you following adsense rules and regulations you will be fine :)
     
  11. Jeevs

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    Your question has been answered...shoot the PM
     
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    Gudrulea BANNED BANNED

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    How the hell is that possible?

    I want to invest and put all my heart in adsense and make a stable income of course whitehat... but wtf even if I am whitehat I can get banned?:|

    thank you
     
  13. Jeevs

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    We can't be sure of what we don't own...may be crappy contents leads to ban..but in many cases,Adsense bans for no practical reason..nothing much can be done for that..but getting a new adsense account is the best way out,plenty of ways to get approved have been shared here at BHW.

    OP,replied to your PM
     
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    Gudrulea BANNED BANNED

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    Thats sad man :(

    Thanks for your time.
     
  15. geass

    geass Registered Member

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    Thank you for this encouragement..

    I really appreciate this