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Having Trouble Making the Cash and have been Implementing for a Month now.

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Sneeks, Jan 16, 2010.

  1. Sneeks

    Sneeks Junior Member

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    So the topic basically states it all. I already got a website/hosting up in running. It just seems that implementing the idea to get lots of traffic isnt turning out as well as I thought it would have.

    I was reading this forum for about a week before deciding what to actually do. Then using my own little twist on it. Which as of now, doesn't seem like a big success. Time will tell though.

    Sometimes when I read these forums, I gather up so many ideas that it's almost similar to jacking off. It feels good once you get more and more and more ideas. Then once you think you found the goldmine, you orgasm and all your left with is a big mess of ideas with none working for you.

    My question is how do I stop myself from overloading an information mess.

    The goal is simple, as it is for everyone on this board. I want to make money!

    I've read about:

    1) Figured out 1

    2) Movie tube site - get paid for people doing cpa offers in the middle of watching a movie. (I've been currently implementing this but have been lacking traffic. This is where I need help. Backlinks? Xrumer? Tried comment spamming/everything youtube.)

    3) Figured out 3

    4) AC content writing - I had a technique on how to get people to write articles for me. Everyone simply just sucks at writing articles though, or they are just about crappy literature. (Made about $15 from 7 articles in 4 days..... sadly that's the best I've done on IM so far.)

    5) Job Referrals/recruiting - simple as it sounds. no money yet from this though...

    6) Gather Up facebook friends - Well my account finally stopped letting me add friends. So now what? make more accounts?

    7) Apparently there are companies that will pay you for everytime someone submits there job resume. (don't know which cpa company pays for this, if someone can help me out thatd be great)

    8) Wordpress site on an amazon product with review. Adsense included. (again the traffic thing fails me for this as well.)

    9) Make a website with a high valued keyword for google adsense. So whenever somene makes clicks, you get a high amount of money per click. (again the traffic thing kills this method from working as well)

    10) Ewhoring - I got to the part of having nude pictures. Then I realized how crooked you would have to be to pretend to be a girl all day. Also, I'm not sure which affiliates to advertise to these perverts. (any suggestions on affiliate to use would help me out a little) (also not enough emailing tools, I would have to do a lot of manual work which I wouldn't mind. I know theres automated tools out there somewhere but I know mannual always works best. Question is what to push on these pervs.... webcams dont seem very effective.)

    11) Looking for more websites that pay you for people to view your videos and click on the ads. (besides youtube partners). I know of a few more others but just want to know more.

    12) Heard about advertising ring tones? Not sure how well this would work though since I seem to have a big problem with traffic. Unless I advertised on amazon etc.

    13) Thinking about bidding on .01-.05 ppc links. I saw some method where if you advertised a email/zip cpa on a .01-.05 ppc site/ad. Most of the time people will fill it out. Making you profit. Not sure how realistic that sounds though.

    I'm just sick of people asking me what I'm doing on the computer all day and I have nothing to show for it. It's been about a month now and I'm just finding myself getting more and more stressful about pulling my hair out. The traffic thing is killing me I feel like. I implemented hosting/domain/content/design/etc. Now the traffic is just kicking me in the nuts. Buying for traffic seems it wont be too relative or profitting.

    Also, I've read Harro's Money making techniques over and over.

    Again manual work doesn't bother me. I would just rather do some work that is going to make me some money. I'm really in the hurt right now, no I don't have health issues. But other than that, everything else is bad with my life. Homeless, etc. This isnt a feel bad for me thread though.

    This is just a thread for hopefully someone to help me expand my ideas and throw me on the right track of what I'm missing. Mainly the problem is CPA's sort of. While traffic is another huge issue.

    If this thread is in the wrong section pleaes move it. If you have any suggestions for me, please pm me if you feel you don't want to make it public. As I don't blame you.
     
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  2. magcshroom

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    Lots of excuses. Stick to 4 or 1. Some people make it in IM, some don't.

    You're missing the mindset that it takes to be successful. Whether or not that can be learned i'm not sure. People with the right mindset don't take $0 for an answer. They find a way.

    Maybe you can prove me wrong and maybe you do have what it takes.
     
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  3. Sneeks

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    give me a break, you can't tell how hard I try or how much work I put in through my opening text.

    I'm just asking for advice or anything that will help me fill in the holes that I'm missing. To actually start pushing things to gain the revenue. Maybe something that I haven't read about yet. You stating that I'm just giving excuses is crap, I'm trying to expand my knowledge on what I'm missing. I'm just misinformed on what my next steps are to consider. Again someone comes in my room stating I've been on the computer for the last 2 days. Don't get me wrong I'm learning a lot, I just need better steps a little faster.
     
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  4. tygrus

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    You've tried a lot of stuff in one month, but how seriously did you try each. Most people don't get any success for at least 3 months, sometimes as long as 1 year. You got to put in at least a few months before you get frustrated and say nothing is working for you.
     
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    also for technique 1.... where is the cpa for that at? I'll get started right away :)
     
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    I'm just in a stuck spot right now. Do I create more web pages with different niches? Do I stick to the same one. Where will the money come from for more hosting... etc etc. Just trying to get my feet wet.

    Some of the techniques I didn't even attempt to try. For example, ewhoring. And other ones that I can't find CPAs for and such. That's why I'm stating I need help in every technique I stated.
     
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    Maybe start by outsourcing yourself to someone for a while. Offer to do some cheapo CL postings or something, just to get some income coming in and the feel of things.
     
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    I would do manual craigslist work for someone. I just don't have many tools either. I can do manual work for anyone for the right price. I can change my ips through wifi connections so I can def do some type of work like this. That's why I was also thinking if I had a CPA for technique #1. I'd be decent on that and making a little bit of money.

    I was thinking about traffic the most here for the site I already have established. I would like to make just a little bit of money so I can buy more domains and expand. Also, I'm learning slowly how to use wordpress.
     
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    Datinggold.com (Free $3 signups)
    CashUniversity.com ($20 CC signups)

    I doubt you tried this hard enough, any fool can make money ewhoring unless ur picky and looking for the easy ways to get rich quick (u can actually make lots of money ewhoring and when u have a system running autopilot u dont even deal with acting a girl/seeing dick picks etc)

    Try again and try harder :)
     
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  10. Sneeks

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    Ewhoring - this was probably the thing I haven't tried anything of the most. I appreciate the comments though. This was exactly what I was looking for, in this technique. Thank you for the comments about ewhoring. We can talk about tools if you want to make the job easier ;-)
     
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    im bumping this for anyone who wants to chat and brainstorm with me. (i wont say shit to other ppl, experience preferred) :-X
     
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    Just pick a method that YOU think is reasonable, and stick to it. I was struggling with all sorts of things - weight loss affiliate programs (didn't make a dime), ewhoring (made $5, lol) and then I found a method and I said "Hey, I can do that!"

    I just stuck to it and now I'm making bank. It's that simple. Find a method that works for YOU.

    But, it's very, very important to stick to it! I can't stress that enough. And, even if you don't make a penny the first few months, you'll learn so many things that will eventually help you get your first check.

    What I can suggest to you now is to take a break. Don't come to BHW for a day or two, don't even use the internet.

    Simply try and brainstorm an idea yourself or think of a method that might work. Take notes. Then come back here and do some research on your ideas. Act on it. Make $$$.
     
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  13. Sneeks

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    I've been working on the idea I stuck with. I'm slowly getting up there. Just wondering if there was a process to speed this type of thing up ;-). Also, I'm always on the hunch for new niches and new ideas. I love to brainstorm my ideas with other working ideas to get that "twist".
     
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    im ready to brainstorm again with some new people. maybe something about seo techniques? i lack getting traffic is my main key
     
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    Getting traffic is mainly 3 things; keywords people are searching for, backlinking so you can raise it in the SERPs and get organic traffic then additional methods like twitter or article traffic to keep targeting views coming to it. But these are no overnight winners. Probably 6 months to a year project to start getting some reasonable income.

    The guy over in the other thread is making $400 bucks a day off his site from 20k visitors per day, but it took him 4 years to get there.
     
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    Thats everybody "main key". Lol
    You can have the best product in the world for one dollar but no one to sell it to.

    Here's a possibility you can consider.

    I don't know for sure but if my memory serves me correct there are a few niche finders in the download section.
    Get one.

    Now what these do is they research your competition for certain keyword in the search engines.
    You are looking for keywords or niches that have low competition.
    So sites with low to none pagerank, not many to none inlinks, low to none alexa rank etc.
    When you find one you match a product to it. Be it cpa, adsense or amazon.

    Next you optimize your website.
    I made a small threat about this with some easy things you can do.
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...me-search-engine-optimization-basic-tips.html
    Also search the forum for other useful threads.

    Then start link building. There are plenty of linkbuilder softwares in the download section, also rss submitters, directory submitters etc.
    Also there is a user here called micallef. Just search for his threads.
    He has some great threads on link building that you might enjoy taking a look at.

    Don't give up. If you have a good niche you see results immediately.
    And some times it takes the better part of three months.
    But ones you succeed ones, you'll see how easy it really is.
     
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  17. Sneeks

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    I'm not giving up. I have a bunch of niches in mind. I'm slowly learning how to use wordpress so I can just keep generating out articles and webpages like pow pow pow.

    I can't keep positively work on several webpages though if I cant even fit the deed to get traffic to just at least 1.....

    I already have 3-5 more ideas in mind.
     
  18. Crooker

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    If your going to be working with wordpress a lot it's handy to know some php.
    If you visit this youtube channel;
    http://www.youtube.com/user/phpacademy?blend=4&ob=4#g/c/960338B143E7F889
    You can learn a the basics of php in two days.
    No reading, just watch the vids. It's not hard at all. Trust me.
    I'd say this is a powerful tool in your online development.
     
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  19. biznets

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    I've been there and done that... you are trying to do to much at once, concentrate on one method and refine it.
     
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    Pay someone to xrummer your movie site. Most blasts start at like 10 bucks