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Have you ever taught someone your business -- Like an apprentice?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by blackhatcatz, Jul 11, 2008.

  1. blackhatcatz

    blackhatcatz Power Member

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    Hey Guys,

    I'm not a guru or anything, I do ok with adwords and lately i've been thinking about teaching a personal friend about my stuff, you know like making him/her an apprentice because I'm setting up my own company.

    I mean i'm a bit curious if anyone has tried to like trained and gave away their secrets to a few individuals.. sicne I'm still considering it.. Of course they have to be someone you personally know and you have to qualify them properly too.

    So has anyone done this?


    All the best,

    catz
     
  2. Essential Clix

    Essential Clix Executive VIP Premium Member

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    Why not just hire them as workers? And unless you trust them with your life, make them sign an NDA and a non-compete agreement.
     
  3. Belexandor

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    I agree with you Clix.

    Put them to work and you'll find out if they have the desire to make it or not. You'll also find out about their character, which will let you know how much you can trust them with.

    I've tried to explain internet marketing to a few people that I'm close to in my personal life. Only about 1 in 10 even get the concept. Most people simply don't understand the internt beyond being able to amuse themselves with it.

    Good luck with your apprentice dude.
     
  4. deth_by_uv

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    Don't just "hire" them off the bat. What I would do first is "out-task" to them first.

    If they really want to learn, give them the grunt work first. Write me 10 articles around this...If they can do that without the 'fancy' methods bhw offers...just hardcore writing.

    If they can do that reasonably well, out-task another task to them. Etc.

    Once you are very sure they have the responsibility needed to meet your project needs, begin outsourcing to them regularly to learn that one part of the business. They will be that source you always go to with your tasks.

    I'm about to start looking for another person on my team soon and that'll be my plan. I don't want to teach someone the whole system because they have no incentive to stay. Have them become really good at one thing, like being your webmaster or designer or whatever you feel is best. Increase their responsibility as they prove that they are worthy of your teachings.

    Just also remember that piece of advice that says you shouldn't go into business with friends and family. However, shouldn't just depends on your own relationship level and trust with the person.

    btw, I just wanted to say that I haven't done this with IM - however I've heard this from Rich Sch3ffren's course on here and funny enough, we also did this in a mortgage company I was a sales manager for. It's repeatable strategy if you call it that, for any new blood you bring on.
     
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  5. multicolorguru

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    For some reason I always try to help friends if they are in financial need (I am doing pretty good in all the non internet marketing areas:p).

    Point is, I have yet to find the passion in them they would need to suceed (even with the simple stuff).

    So yeah, I tried, I failed, I decided not to help anymore.
     
  6. CapMorgan

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    I did the same thing recently for a few friends. I found that they had a hard time really grabbing the concept, and staying interested. This is not for everyone. If they are looking for instant gratification, or a regular pay check this will not be for them even if they can stay interested. Making money online needs to be done by those with an understanding of the net, and with a strong entrepreneur spirit.

    Definetely outsource to them first. Maybe camtasia some of the lessons/jobs to them to save for later use on your next friend or product launch.
     
  7. MaestroDelWeb

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    I have actually tried this with a couple of friends. It sucked. Everyone wants to make money at home. The problem is no one wants to actually work for it or learn something new. Basically they wanted me to hold their hand and be next to them for the whole process. What a big waste of time?

    I told them if you want to learn how to do anything at the very least learn some HTML to speed up the process. I gave one a book and the other one websites with tutorials on how to learn HTML. Neither one of them did anything.

    I know, some people might be wondering why I chose HTML? The reason is because they both had supposedly million dollar ideas (according to them) and I wanted to see if they were dedicated enough to implement them (even with a basic hello world page) especially since they claimed they were million dollar ideas. They both quit without doing shit. It pissed me off because as long as I was next to them showing them step by step how to do things they worked, when I told them what to do they did nothing.

    I also know a guy who has the shittiest and when I say shittiest I'm talking about 1999 geocities type websites and he's banking mid five figures and he doesn't know how to do shit and I still don't understand how he gets traffic because his sites seriously suck.

    The point is the guy with the shitty sites works and makes money (a few hours per week), the other guys don't try. I even told the other guys if you don't want to do the work yourselves you can also outsource it. Of course they were too cheap and didn't believe in themselves. They are still my friends but they know not to ask me about anything about making money online or creating websites because I just tell them to go fuck themselves.
     
  8. TheInternetHustler

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    I am gona go to a camp with my fried for 3 weeks and I will have my laptop and he will have his. He is smart I will teach him my old methods. I think by the end of camp he will be making $100+ a day
     
  9. Rambo

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    I have taught some family how to make some money on the Internet. My cousins knew nothing about this when they started but now they are both rocking at least $200 a day at 18.

    Not bad for them and they will only improve as I teach them more and more.

    That was a good experience however when people realise you are making good money via the Internet, they all want a piece of the pie. Lets face it, everyone would love to work at home, work their own hours and make a lot of money.

    Its the dream right. We are living the dream.

    I am happy to teach people but I tend not to do so very often as so many problems can arise, especially if you know them personally. Then if something goes wrong or they think you are not telling them the 'ultimate secret to making $1000 a day', your personal relationship with that person can be affected.

    Just be careful as to who you are using as an apprentice.
     
  10. The Scarlet Pimp

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    Been there, done that...
    Ain't going *that* route again.

    I gave up on mentoring once I learned that most people expect money to be handed to them on a silver tray. Everybody wants money; everybody says they're willing to work for money; most people won't do a thing to get money and are quite happy with just getting by in life.

    Two years ago a woman contacted me about some financial problems that she was having. I told her I'd pay her $500. for every referral she was willing to send me. All she'd have to do is run a two-line ad in her local newspaper.

    She said she was far too busy asking God to help her win the lottery...

    And no, that is NOT a joke.

    Three years ago I was contacted by a man who wanted to get into the mortgage brokering business. His wife had seen a Carlton Sheets infomercial and she was convinced that this was easy money. After a brief phone conversation I told him he'd be ready to "wheel & deal" in two weeks if he took a FREE, 10-lesson, online training course via auto-responder. He didn't need to pay a dime for anything.

    As soon as he heard that he'd actually have to read something, he instantly (and I do mean, *INSTANTLY*) lost all interest in continuing.

    Over the last 4 years I've been contacted by many people looking to start their own home business. Often they had the pie-in-the-sky fantasy that they wouldn't have to actually do anything other than sit at their PC.
    Once they realized they would have to do more than just click their mouse if they wanted to get somewhere, they'd often go away disappointed.

    If I ever decide to teach anyone this business, it will be via ebooks. I refuse to waste my time on people who aren't serious, and who will bail out the minute things get a bit hectic.

    TSP

    "When opportunity knocks most people don't recognize it
    because it often comes dressed as work." -- Tom A. Edison
     
  11. deth_by_uv

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    Damn Pimp, you said it. I was in the mortgage industry for a short time, going on 6 years now and I never seen so much sorry people in my life...

    THe company I worked for had me sorting out the interns...she goes to telemarketing, he goes to appraisal division, she goes to admin...Everybody wanted to be the loan officer because of all the $$$

    But they don't realize the emotional games you have to play with yourself and people, the mountain of hours mastering sales and coordinating complex transactions with manila folders full of paperwork as thick as an encyclopedia, lol. Iv'e seen a lot of my trainees eyeballs rolling back and that look of nausea setting in as they get the full picture that it's not just sit back, get paid.

    Silly thing is we'd provide the good interns with great 1on1 training, leads and floor time to answer calls, nearly 90% would whine that it's too hard, it's too this, too that...and before you know it they're back on the car lot, and eating ramen for dinner.

    It's hard to find people with a passion and the ability to recognize their passion. However, once you find that one person, which is why you should out-task to a large group of people and find the one person who's the winner and just focus on them. It's not easy, but it's just part of the game when you want to add team members to your crew. Necessary evil.
     
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