I'm interested in expanding my ebay business. So I decided to check out alibaba.com, and it wasn't long before I found a 'Gold Registered' Seller. I downloaded their Trade Manager chat thing and I started merrily communicating with this guy called Mr. Liu from China. The initial items I was interested in, Kaspersky Internet Security 2010, they no longer had in stock. After further questions from me and helpful responses from him I requested a .doc file of their other software and their DVD Boxsets. Let me say right now straight off the bat, one of my first questions was whether their stock was originals or copies. And to his credit, he immediately and honestly replied they were indeed copies. Very good ones in fact. The DVDs are indistinguishable from the originals, carry English writing and play on any region DVD player. The software he said are obviously copies because the packaging is different. Jump forward two days (yesterday about this time)... I've done my research on ebay, identified four DVD boxsets with a significant profit margin. So I decided to get back in contact with Mr Liu and asked for four individual units of each DVD boxset to act as samples. For me to give it the once over and check that all is present and correct, and to discover after selling and despatching future customers are happy with their brand new DVD Boxset bargain and respond with positive feedback. If all went well then I assured Mr Liu that we would be interested in arranging a dropshipping agreement. Mr Liu expounded on the professionalism of ESM (Chinese Postal Service), explaining how post sent by ESM does not have a Chinese Postmark therefore my customers will have no idea their lovely DVD BoxSets came from China. I was sold on the DVDs and the future dropshipping idea. Gift Horse, Mouth etc. I sent a payment of $220 via paypal to their paypal address stating the payment was for goods. Mr Liu reassured me that the goods would be despatched tomorrow (today) and he would send me an email with a .doc invoice. I just contacted Mr Liu about an hour ago using their Trade Manager Chat Thing, and immediately replied that he had to go out, like right now, the goods will be despatched in a few hours, sorry, very sorry but I have to go, yep right now!!! I've just got a bad feeling about all this. I've never dealt with non-uk distributors and wholesalers before. I watched a video recently in which Saj P was waxing lyrical how great ebay and alibaba.com, and how by combining the both in your business you can possibly become what many other Ebay traders have become - internet millionaires. I was sold!!! So were his audience, when he was considering stopping his presentation they were almost begging him to continue. After this long stream of consciousness (forgive me but I just wanted to share the whole story) if the goods do not arrive and I receive no invoice am I protected by paypal? Can I get my money back from paypal if these guys try and rip me off? Does the fact I paid them via email rather than from a website affect my rights to a refund in any way from paypal? I may be worrying about nothing here but due to my need to grow my ebay business I've hastily (possibly) entered into a transaction with someone I don't know and wouldn't even recognise if he was standing right next to me at a bus stop! I'm totally out of my comfort zone at the moment. Can anyone share any advice, thoughts or personal experiences of dealing with far eastern traders on alibaba.com. Thanks guys.