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Have budget, must spend. Recommend a good SEO team (black or white)

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by TSAus, Dec 22, 2013.

  1. TSAus

    TSAus Newbie

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    Australian online tobacco seller.
    Domestic only.

    Currently:
    Online forum posts
    Face to face handout cards in public places
    $20 off next order if you refer a friend who orders

    Adwords? Rejected. Reddit? Banned. Facebook? No Thanks.

    Very specific audience.
    1. Australia only
    2. Smokers

    So I've got a small budget of US$200, need the best way to spend it before I dig any deeper.
    Of course if it goes well, and i get great conversions, there will be more behind it.

    I'm after recommendations, have you used an seo guy/team/company and got some great results?

    I've got a budget to spend, help me spend it well!
     
  2. lmxftw

    lmxftw BANNED BANNED

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    buy a list of targeted 'how to quit smoking' opt-ins. e-mail them some offers with calls to action

    "Smoking is cool but it's so expensive... NO MORE WITH THESE AMAZING PRICES!"

    a lot of people want to quit just because it's expensive as hell to smoke :)
    oh.. your budget is really 'skinny' for your niche
     
  3. TSAus

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    Mate that is a brilliant, brilliant idea.
    Sneaky but brilliant. That said I'm not sure any quit smoking groups would offer up their mail lists... no matter the price.


    It's skinny I know, but having tried a couple of ad networks (7 search etc), and lost a littl.e
    I'm learning a 'little test, see even the slightest result, pour a little more in"
    Think there's a better start point $ wise?
     
  4. lmxftw

    lmxftw BANNED BANNED

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    It's a really low budget because cigarettes have been banned from the media a loooooooong time ago
    so anyone willing to advertise them online will sure ask for a wad-o-cash for their services.

    You don't need to buy opt-in lists :)
    Up your budget to ~500-750$/month and I'm sure someone will help you get those lists, real opt-in lists.

    Now being a somewhat non-internet product (whoever wants to smoke will just go to the nearest shop and get a pack of smokes) you will need a good hook to be able to sell it. Either really low prices or you'll also need to market smokers paraphernalia. Every smoker needs a lighter and a nice lighter (the ones in the range of 20-50$) is also a nice gift... or a pipe... or a bong... or even weed!

    Also smokers will most likely gift themselves a nice cigar from time to time, accompanied by a snifter of cognac... see where I'm going ?

    Your current niche is not overwhelmed because of the cigarette industry but because the leads in it are possible markets for a lot of low production cost - high expense products.