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Have a site with PR1 in google

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by pantera420, Dec 9, 2009.

  1. pantera420

    pantera420 Newbie

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    Hey everyone,
    I was really lucky today and came across a site that was ranking on the first page of google with commonly searched term. It is an older lady in her 80's that owns it and wants me to help her make money off the site. it is a medical site and she will split the profits with me if I can help her make money with it. She started it in 2000 and it has pretty much been on the first page of the google rankings since then. Where should I start with this site as far as advertising. She said she has made a little money with the google ads that you always see on the site but what could we do to make some good money on different sites. I would like to use mostly whitehat methods as I don't want to get kicked out of the first page using blackhat or is that possible. Anyways thanks in advance
     
  2. multimedia

    multimedia Power Member

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    Hehhehe nice humor, must be easy for her as she might have seen some Marilyn Monroe's films :D. LOL just joking.

    @Pantera: Submit few articles to high traffic directories and the traffic automatically comes in. But, please provide more details like whether she sells something on her site or not.
     
  3. pantera420

    pantera420 Newbie

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    Sorry no there isn't any kind of affiliate marketing on the site, just a few google ads. It is for doctors to advertise their services on but they can sign up for free or pay $100 to be featured. She has a ton of docs signed up but they are all for the free service of just being listed. She doesn't offer a whole lot when they do sign up as a featured doc. they just get to post some extra info.
     
  4. pantera420

    pantera420 Newbie

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    Alright People hurry up this lady probably only has another day or two left.

    just kidding... I wanted to add the keyword she is ranking high on close to 70,000 search a month
     
  5. Biscut

    Biscut Regular Member

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    Let me get this straight. An 80 year old lady, knows nothing about SEO, gets a #1 ranking for a keyword that gets 70,000 searches a month? Sounds like a sales letter to me! lol!!

    So this site allows doctors to advertise themselves in very small print I assume but what attracts viewers? Is it providing medical information? You could sell banner ad space. Charge them PPC or per impressions. You could even sign up for Adbrite or some other media buy company and they could sell ads. They will also take care of the advertising costs and then pay you a % of the revenue.
     
  6. pantera420

    pantera420 Newbie

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    I know it sounds crazy but it true. I am not sure what attracts them but the site does carry alot of info on it. I am going to try to utilize this site the best possible way I can. I checked earlier and the site is out ranking WebMD on the keyword
     
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    Biscut Regular Member

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    Put it in an ebook and sell it as a WSO or on DP. You'd should make some good money in time for Christmas!
     
  8. yousefgreat

    yousefgreat Regular Member

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    Dude, there are 100's of ways you can monetize such traffic..

    1) Affiliate marketing: promote any product in the same niche and rake your commissions.
    2) CPA: offer any CPA offers. There are hundreds out there ready to be promoted. Everything from email submits to sale% commisions
    3) An opt-in to promote your own health products (outsource one)

    With that amount of traffic, you should have no trouble making lots of $$
     
  9. bijikpalir

    bijikpalir Regular Member

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    Just improve Google ads replacement and change new theme for the site. See whether the earning is increasing or not. It is unbelievable such #1 site earn so little money.
     
  10. deth_by_uv

    deth_by_uv Power Member

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    Obviously you have no idea what you're accusing people's intentions about because the situation is plausible. If the site was started in 2000 then there is a good history with Google and domain age so if she has piles of doctors signing up to her directory, then there should be tons of user generated content after nearly 10 years. There should also be a good amount of links going in and out from the site.

    The only thing I see is that directory sites rarely motivate the person to pay for a featured listing unless they are a big name directory or there is some flashy thing like video, downloadable content like company brochures and all that jazz. So I would be trying to pitch her that she needs more bells and whistles that would justify a $100 listing.

    Or, you could try lowering the price so a featured listing only costs $20 and try to get profits by volume. You could experiment with different level packages like a bronze, silver, gold package that includes more services that not only helps doctors get listed, but perhaps sell them that if you list with your old lady, then they get their own personal google local business listing that you setup using the "Google Maps Cash" course on here (I never used it, but I bought ukescuba's maps method a while ago and it works). Get creative with offerings.

    You never mentioned what position she is on first page, so maybe even lowering a price while doing a long term wh campaign to rank higher could be your start. It's amazing the traffic differences can be when you move just one spot higher, well more than one spot should be the goal :)
     
  11. pantera420

    pantera420 Newbie

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    She ranking at the #1 spot on the first page with the keyword I was talking about earlier and she ranks on the first page (not the top spot) with a couple other keywords as well.
     
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    get to be in the lady testament - a part from that i'm sorry but the 80 year old lady story is quite unbelievable
     
  13. pantera420

    pantera420 Newbie

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    It might be unbelievable but it is true. I joined this site around a month ago and hadn't even heard of this type of marketing and barely knew the other side of it as well. I first joined with the intention of making my own site profitable but have been unsuccessful with that. I don't see any real reason why I would lie about this unless there is some grand scheme you are thinking of that I am not. Anyways I am just trying to find the best way to monetize this site because I know this much that it has potential.
     
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    Also I have been checking out the site. I looked to see how many backlinks she has and she only has 2. How in the hell is she ranking so high?
     
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    why nto see what types of ads are being promoted on the side of google when you type your keyword in.

    from there see where you can sign up for those programs and simply just put that program ad on your page
     
  16. pantera420

    pantera420 Newbie

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    Thanks fo the tip I will see.
     
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    Relax. It was a joke, nothing more. Read my first post just above it and you'll understand why I said it.
     
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    looking at the public of the site, I think you shouldn't opt for CPA (unless it's like health-insurance related. that is, if health-insurance campaigns even exist on cpa, because I've never come across one). Affiliate might seem like a good option to me. Or you could just play it rough and sell backlinks to other competitors for the keyword on her website, without her knowing it.

    Just some thoughts, never said they were perfect:p

    Seb
     
  19. pantera420

    pantera420 Newbie

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    Thanks man I will look into it. I know there has to be something out there to make money but I am a newb in the literal sense. Anyways thanks for everyones help