Has this happened to you- Negotiating with newbies ?

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  1. krishnaverma

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    I am myself quite new to the Internet marketing world but had learned the basics with the help of Internet ( mainly BHW :) ). But, I do meet some newbies here and there and it is quite funny negotiating with them. Few days back, I was talking to a client who wanted me to write articles for him. He asked me to write few articles for his website and asked me the rate for it. From the conservation, it was quite clear that he had no idea about the current rates in the market. Still, I told him the actual rate and he accepted. After I gave him the articles, he asked me which software I used for spinning. He thought the articles to be too cheap the rate I wrote for him($1 per 100 words).

    Now today I was approached by a guy who wanted to do some work. I asked him if he could do forum posting and finally he agreed for Rs 250 per 500 posts. It is the price asked by him. Now I strongly feel confused in these cases. Am I doing anything wrong here ? Has it happened to you also ?
     
  2. lanbo

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    A good price is whatever a client will pay so it's up to you
     
  3. krishnaverma

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    My point is suppose you charge $1 per 100 words and a client (newbie) is asks you the rate, you tell higher and he accepts. It is unethical ?
     
  4. adamkpm

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    Op,

    I don't think it's unethical if you can convince somebody to pay more than it's worth. You apparently have him convinced it's worth it at that price. Like lanbo said, a good price is whatever a client is willing to pay for it.

    Cheers
     
  5. Atomic21

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    No it is not unethical. It is his responsibility to research the going rate. Have you ever bought a used car? :bigeyes2:

     
  6. krishnaverma

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    I have not bought a used car or even a new one :). I hope I am in a position to buy one within a year.
     
  7. johndoejohndoe

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    Car salesmen are the slimiest of them all. Do you like a hard, hard sell? Oh really, the people next where we're sitting, that just walked in, are interested in the same exact car, so I better hurry up and buy it now? I've heard that a couple times. Sigh...

    If you offer your service at a higher rate and people perceive it to be valued at that rate based on the service and type of work you do, then go with it. On the other hand, if you price yourself too high, you're going to have to lower prices to make more sales.
     
  8. SuperLinks

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    Why is it unethical?

    The point is that the market will determine the value of your product, service or skills. Don't shoot yourself in the foot and charge too little, thus lowballing yourself.

    Start high, and move lower based on your sales, feedback, etc. Isn't it better to make $3/100 words rather than $1 if they'll pay it?
     
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  9. krishnaverma

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    You are right, may be I am new to this. Thus, I have such feelings.
     
  10. shariqcomp6

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    it depends on the value for money.......
    look from the buyers point of view....most of the newbies in market thinks if something is expensive it is quality service!

    few days back a guy approached me to rank a local business.... i charged rs 15k .... his website was on top of the results within 15 days... just web 2.0 gig and a few high pr links did the job... costs me around 1.5k .... but for him ranking on top of google for just 15k was a steal.... coz he had no idea how i did it :D

    so if you think that the buyer have no idea how to do a job... you can get good money..
    but if someone knows about your cost price...he will pay low
     
  11. Nick1

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    Do what sits well with your conscience.
     
  12. jazzc

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    What you need to realize is that a voluntary trade is a win-win situation. When you buy a newspaper, you prefer the newspaper over your $. If it was too high value, you might not. But the actual amount of $ is not important.