Has there been any instance where any victim of fraud on this site has ever actually seen proper justice?

Chromatic_14

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Besides the scammer getting their account banned on a site where it takes under minutes to create a new one with practically zero verification of any kind when it come to either payment or identity? Then rinse and repeat if they choose to do so. Doesn’t seem like much of a punishment to be honest.
 
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The problem with ID verification it's the fact that anybody can get a fake one.. it's hard to stop scammers
 
You gotta build up an account, nobody is gonna believe a newbie. Getting banned or losing an account is not as harmless as you potray it to be. It takes literal years to create a "legitimate" account.
 
Could you be considered a good example, building up a reputation from scratch based on this topic?

As I've already stated, deceiving is always there, noone can escape from this not even in physical business. I know plenty of people that have gone to bankrupt for deceiving issues, including my uncle. Don't know why internet feels so special

The last company I built, burned almost $300K in a huge failure, overpromising a service I could not ultimately manage to deliver. Maybe for the investors it was a scam. But none claimed to me a single penny because they knew the risks.

This is how money exactly works. I understand that when we work on a daily basis, money is all we have, so as many have stated, due dilligences and milestones are the only protection measures. For example, for Sartre $30K service he was marketing, if you suspect of a real scam, one could have asked him to pay in $5K blocks, for example per 5K/monthly visits milestone instead of $30K upfront. If he did not agree with this, then you were always free to choose an alternative, or just put all the money in the roulette. If you had $300K in your bank and you were looking for some extra profits then maybe losing those $30K on that investment wasn't a real deal. But if you expected this to be your sole income source with not even having those $30K and have it to lend it from a bank, then you could be in real problems.

Same applies for anything in life.

So basically if you ask a guy, to put you a link in NYT for $3K then tell him that you are going to pay maybe 30% upfront and 70% on publish. If he tells you that he has to pay NYT upfront, then you know the risks (probably I would stay go 50%/50% or not publish at all or try to do it more direct with the publisher).

But if you pay the $3K and then get scammed (even by a very old and reputed account), and $3K was all you had for linkbuilding... I think you did things wrong from the beginning, OR you had too much spare money that your time for management wasn't worth those $3K in loses for the risk of losing.
 
Very unlikely to get a refund, people here live in different countries, some payments are made with crypto, factors that make the scam almost perfect to be replicated by scammers.

Your only chance is to actually use Escrow or dispute system payments like PayPal...otherwise, good luck calling the foreign police and asking for compensation having only a username on an internet forum as the basis for your claim.
 
Besides the scammer getting their account banned on a site where it takes under minutes to create a new one with practically zero verification of any kind when it come to either payment or identity? Then rinse and repeat if they choose to do so. Doesn’t seem like much of a punishment to be honest.
Yeah, we go to people's homes and beat them with bamboo until they pay up.

Another frivolous thread by the OP.
 
You gotta build up an account, nobody is gonna believe a newbie. Getting banned or losing an account is not as harmless as you potray it to be. It takes literal years to create a "legitimate" account.
Are you sure about the last sentence? Just take a quick look at other hack forums where there's sellers offering aged or hacked BHW accounts.

Hint: Take a look at any of those obvious scam Google Ads threshold account sellers' accounts. They are all accounts from 7-8 years ago but their post history shows a sudden surge in the last few months or weeks leading upto their sales thread after years of inactivity.

In my opinion this forum should really implement a centralised escrow system to weed out these scammers.
 
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