Ok, heres a quit scenario. I was using SENuke to get some article submissions and web2.0 stuff going with original written articles. My site was doing good moving up the SERPS so I figured a blast from xrumer would help speed up the process. I had a well respected member throw out a blast of 50k for me and now my site has fallen off the serps all together, It does however bounce in and out of the 600 range every other day or so. So my question is, do you think using xrumer as well as SENuke f*cked up my serps and chances to make it to the top page for a low competitive keyword phrase?