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Has anyone ranked any sites recently in seo without investing tons of money on pbns etc?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Rentriutoigjtuowl, Dec 12, 2014.

  1. Rentriutoigjtuowl

    Rentriutoigjtuowl BANNED BANNED

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    After 3 years I ran like a bat out of hell from seo about 4 months ago almost suicidal at how hard it was. I knew tons about GSA but everything seemed impossible with the updates forcing every site of mine to be jammed like a military blockade on page 2.

    Well ive spent 4 months doing social media pinterest etc. and not making a fucking cent from that either so im not much better off now.

    Ive been reading journeys recently and each time they seem to start off doing ppd or pinterest but half way thru they are suddenly doing seo. Mind you all those journeys are always over a year old or so so i guess they got in before the shit really hit the fan altho kinlees journey is pretty recent and she was doing well with seo.

    So im wondering if i should try again on some super super low comp keywords, i mean even below 1k monthly traffic but even then i wasnt able to get past the fucking second page when i tried before i quit last time.

    Can anyone tell me if they ranked from scratch recently with just gsa and other free methods such as web 2.0 ie without investing in expensive link networks or pbns?

    seo really destroyed my soul when i did it before so im afraid of my sanity to try again but social media isnt getting me anywhere fast either. Its not a case of chopping and changing before you say it. i dont think 4 months is not giving social media a proper try and im not quitting it but its not going anywhere fast so im thinking of trying seo agian since i already know that and could fit it into my day if i wanted.

    Yes i know im a fucking loser and cant succeed at anything.
     
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    Who said PBNs cost tons of money? My costs are ~$20/PBN site. That's not much imo.
     
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  4. PBN works great atm (BTW, it costs you around $12-15)
     
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    Really depends on the niche and competition tbh.
     
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    You don't have a big enough dildo to fulfil my needs.

    More to the point, yes I have ranked sites without PBNs.

    This article is quite useful if you can't think beyond web2 and blog comments, and most of the time that is the problem, people just keep pounding at their sites with the only thing they know.

    http://backlinko.com/17-untapped-backlink-sources
     
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    The only thing holding you back OP is your mindset. How can you succeed with this kind of thinking. Sigh.

    SEO is a patience game. I understand you need to see moneys coming in order to stay motivated. Try PPI/PPD
     
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  9. Rentriutoigjtuowl

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    I was thinking today of mixing cpa with seo. Ive been playing with uploading vidoes of games recently i thought to try also cranking up gsa again and blasting them to try and rank in google too.
     
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    well i was very myopic in my thinking like that, i was like xrumer must work i paid so much for it!!!! gotta make it work!!!!

    but since ive been playing with social media and actually starting to get some hits to my sites form these new platforms its opened my mind that there is money on the table in these other arenas.

     
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    I have one site which has a 5k keyword. I started it beginning of last year and somehow that fucker is still on the front page :p it took me nearly a year to get it there but it has been pretty stable there for a few months now and ive not done any seo on it for ages I just abandoned it.

    So that is really my last thread of faith i have in seo motivating me to try again :p

    i dont have time to wait a year for every site though. I could try 50 different quicker methods on this site. I guess its not so bad if i just set and forget the projects while i work on faster methods and maybe they will bear fruit when i least expect it.
     
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    I would also recommend PBNs and tiered contextuals.
     
  13. Rentriutoigjtuowl

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    What do you guys mean that pbns cost 15-20 dollars? You posting to otehr peoples networks right?

    Anyway even 15-20 dollars per months is too much for me. My mamma is currently paying my rent. I can afford a few 10 dollars one off fees here and there for proxies etc but monthly ones are crushing to my funds. I require free methods or as close to free as possible.

    I have zennoposter and gsa.
     
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    No, you buy an aged quality domain, put a website on it, and point links to your money site. (That is the very basic explanation)
     
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    So the only cost would be for domain purchase? can i still use the same hosting I have my money sites on or that is a big nono? how about free hosting?
     
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    Yes you use separate hosts, I personally would not use free hosts. I have one or two sites per host, if two sites on one host, I use cloudflare for the second.

    Using 301s from your aged domain cheapens it up if you use a straight up 301. With old domains I tend to 301 straight up, 301 sites with content, and use other domains to build a PBN.

    However if I am doing a churn and burn for something slightly difficult, above is just a small part of the process.
     
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    create tons quality tier 1, power it up with gsa, rank in no time :)
     
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    You need to get a job and start saving up before venture into the SEO games.
    It's not really free of charge you know..

    What i can suggest is.. create manual web 2.0, citation , high pr profile links (PR 9 and up) to your moneysite. then blast gsa to it.
    Create your own Web 2.0 PBN.
     
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    People don't realize that google trends is your friend:
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...-any-promotion-method-isnt-trending-down.html

    I'm certain that people here have duplicate BHW accounts and try to hint people that they don't try hard enough or do things wrong. Then they tell you how they bought certain services (which they sell themselves) or people gang up to protect their shitty services and just tell you to struggle on. Of course you do that and continue run the squirrel wheel buying and trying more services.
    It took me years to figure this out.

    Do a research in google trends before you dive into something. This is your best friend.
    Cheers.
     
  20. SEO Power

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    The more you try to rank with cheap/free methods, the harder it becomes for you. Write some articles and earn some money, then come back and purchase the kind of links you need to rank well, and faster.