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Has Anyone Ranked A YT Video On pg 1 of Google AFTER August 6th?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by SpiderBlast, Aug 25, 2013.

  1. SpiderBlast

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    I've been hearing rumors and have noticed a bit of an issue myself.

    Prior to early august, I was ranking videos like cake.

    I got 8 videos on page 1, my last video only took 4 weeks to hit #2
    in google for a fairly competitive keyword.

    My newest video however, its been 20 days and it should be dancing
    by now at the least. On page SEO is perfect, it ranks #2 on youtube,
    tons of ******** backlinks, 1000 word keyword rich description, all
    the right tags, lots of likes, lots of good drip fed comments.

    Now, there's a good chance that I'm having this issue since its a new
    channel. And my last channel gained some authority before I started
    ranking videos like crazy.

    But I've been hearing about other video marketers having problems
    ranking videos since after August 6th.

    So my question is this. Has anyone made a video on or after August 6,
    and got that video on page 1 of google?

    Is anyone else on BHW suspect of potential algo changes?
    All my videos in the past took less than 4 weeks to rank. And by week
    3 I'd usually see them dancing.

    So I might be paranoid, but I'd like to hear from other video marketers
    on this forum. Have you been noticing any issues? Is this just a false
    rumor? Do you think it has any credibility behind it?

    Thanks guys,

    -SB
     
  2. ryannull

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    I haven't for a couple months. But, I have notice a big shuffle in the rankings via Google. I am seeing videos ranked now, that never use to and they are older. I wonder if Google is making video creation age a more important factor in their algo.
     
  3. lmxftw

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    yeah i ranked http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ video for the term 'make money online' ... wasn't that hard but the video is really unique and high quality
     
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  4. SpiderBlast

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    LOL. Thats funny. But whats funnier is how much more traffic you could have gotten to your sig, by not acting like
    such a clown.

    It never ceases to amaze me. Members with donor status. Trying to make money. Fancy cigs with half the colors of
    a rainbow. You'd think these people were actually on here to act serious, help members and try to make sales.

    But then they rick roll people, act condescending, sarcastic... and come back months later complaining about ytf
    they can't drive traffic to their offers.

    If anything, you just rick roll'd yourself buddy. :D

    -SB
     
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  5. lmxftw

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    it's a beautiful Sunday morning and you can't take a joke :) what a shame :'(

     
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    Lol can't we all just get along...
     
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    I faced the same problem. I can confirm that there was a Algo change. Maybe now google discounts those tons of spammy links as there was lots of buzz where people were ranking for MMO terms(Popular blogs had covered that loophole). Still you can rank the video, just that it takes some time
     
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    This algo is only for you ! haha never mind...
    There is no change i just ranked a video on Google...
    All of my keywords are on top on Youtube.
    I am targeting around 18 keywords and this is the result of my video - (Result of 1st day!)

    Rankings in Google.

    Keyword 01 #14
    Keyword 02 #17
    Keyword 03 #20
    Keyword 04 #31
    Keyword 05 #39
    Keyword 06 #42
    Keyword 07 #52

    I know how to rank a video on Google/Youtube for any keyword..
    This is the result of process 01.
    I will update the thread about the results if needed.

    Stfrank
     
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  9. hardcorebiker

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    What's the competition like? and how many backlinks you built to them till now? Added any views?
     
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    Competition is really hard, didn't made any backlinks yet !
    Backlinks is the process 02.
    Yes i have added 10k views, likes, comments, subscribers and favorites.
    The cool thing is my video spotted on the main page.
    Got around 33k+ views in just 2 days.
     
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  11. SpiderBlast

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    LOL. Its a shame that the first thing that enters your mind on a Sunday morning is making jokes. :D

    I usually wake up, check my stats, and try to figure out what I'm doing that day to increase my stats.

    But please, by all means, don't stop making jokes. We have a ton of members on here who can't get enough
    of those tired, overused, cookie cutter rick roll jokes. :p
     
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    Let me clarify. You're ranking "competitive" videos in >> 1 day with no backlinks?
    On GOOGLE?

    Can you give me an operational definition of the word "competitive"?

    Like what are the exact match searches for 1 of these videos?

    Forgive me for being so skeptical, but it takes 1 day for a video to get
    indexed in youtube. And it takes backlinks to rank competitive videos
    on google. I've never ranked a competitive video without backlinks.

    Videos rank on google because of views/likes/subs and most importantly
    backlinks.

    So something is very strange about what you're doing.
    My latest video is a 7,700 ESM keyword.

    The video has 78,000 retention views, 360 likes.
    The titles, description and tags are perfectly optimized.
    I have build 8.5k backlinks over the course of 2 weeks.
    6.8k of those backlinks are contextual, do follow links.

    And all my video in the past, have taken around 4 weeks
    to rank in google.

    WHAT ARE YOU DOING THATS SO DIFFERENT?
    I don't get it.

    -SB
     
  13. lmxftw

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    index the links maybe ?

    ping your video ?

    drip feed the social bookmarks ?

    6.8k out of 8.5k backlinks is 80% ... maybe that's what you're doing wrong
     
  14. Nargil

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    I was trying to rank a 25K exact match keyword, which is heavily competetive. I did rank more competetive videos in the past, but no matter what I throw at this one, it won't get higher than 4th or 5th on google and I spent maybe around what... $400 to rank it.
    I haven't tried less competetive video... hell... I haven't tried any video since start of august, because the traffic and conversions are shit during summer months, but trust me, it's not about pinging links lol. :)
    And it's not even about age, I am starting to be outranked on some lower medium competetive keywords with videos which are month old.
    Also, it's not the views, checked my competition many times and they have often far less views than I have and even negative like/dislike statistics and just retarded trackback/scrapebox links.
    So yes, there was an algo change and no, I am not gonna upload anything until this gets sorted out.

    And about google screwing the spammy links pointed to videos - No, not really. It definitely screwed the high quality links for me though, which are few times less effective than before.
     
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    People who work smart don't need their free Sunday to think about their bottomline and how to increase it, they do that in the 5/6 workingdays before the Sunday morning, you should try that ;)
     
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    @http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/members/318387-nargil.html i suggested him to ping the videos on a daily basis (use sb + automator for pinging each day) and to index his backlinks. as i don't have any videos that are ever near those numbers (ranking a 25k EMS is pretty much the same as Mary explaining to Joseph that she got banged up by GOD... pretty much impossible to pull) i can't really be sure but to me it seems that his link profile is bad (80% d0follow blog comments which i'm rather certain are on >obl AA blogs)

    because of YT authority and number of links you can't get it wrong when you spam the crap out of the interwebs with your video link but i'm fairly sure that you still need diversity
     
  17. Nargil

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    I ranked over 30K EMS keyword in the past with maybe $150 budget and that one is still sticking nicely, so no, it wasn't impossible really... but it may be after this update.
     
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    well how many videos are on YT for that keyword ? videos that show up for the exact keyword search ?

    i am first on both YT + G for a keyword that has ~ 1000 videos uploaded [exact search was used] but the keyword has only 2000 EMS on google keyword tool

     
  19. SpiderBlast

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    Interesting. The thing is though I'm using GSA and SB. SB is what got me those 2K no follow links.
    GSA is what got me that 6.5K do follow links. Some come from blogs, some from articles, some from edus, some from wikis.

    But I have NOT pinged my video on a daily basis.
    I also have not tried drip feeding social signals.

    Do you think I need to lower my do follow %? Cause I do have fairly diverse links.

    I'll even link the video if anyone would like to check it out in ahrefs themself.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ge8eqp7thM
     
  20. Nargil

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    lmxftw - If you mean searching with allintitle on youtube, then the competition for that one is around 1500. No idea how to check EMS volume on Youtube, never did that. Also, I do not consider allintitle and "search" a considerable factors. At least not when ranking on G.
    SpiderBlast: The video looks good to me. On site is pretty good and I saw FAR FAR worse backlinks profile with the videos ranking. We are on a same boat by the looks of it.
     
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