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Has anyone ever "fought through" an unnatural links penalty?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by reallife, Sep 11, 2013.

  1. reallife

    reallife Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Got the unnatural links warning Aug 29 for a site that was #1 for all keywords, and a few days later dropped a few spots. The site is just "drifting" through the first page now, from #4-#8 for the keywords. While I'm fully expecting to see the major effects of the penalty at some point soon, I'm wondering whether anyone has ever had any success adding high-PR links, etc. and managing to stay in the top ten despite the penalty?
     
  2. Ungodly

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    Why not try and post your results? That's the best way to learn in my opinion, by making a public spectacle out of it.
     
  3. ceosam

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    I heard someone say they had to remove all their sape links, and submit a reconsideration request to google before they saw rankings increase again. Good luck!
     
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    It depends, what kind of penalty in it? If the penalty is not sitewide then they have de-valued your backlinks that are unnatural. The rank drop is from losing juice from those links.
     
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    I think that is what must have happened to my site. I never got any warning through webmaster tools though. It happened right around the time of P2.0 though so I thought it might have been something to do with that. What is the best method now? Just build more backlinks? I've never bought any links.
     
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    I thought today, you might get some kind of warning in webmaster tools for unnatural looking links wouldn't you?
     
  7. varitech

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    I am dealing with a similar case as we speak, impressions dropped by 50% and rankings from page one to page 5. We identified and removed the domains from which we lost the link juice, previous SEO company had created 4-5 directories with EMD for the pure purpose of cross linking and pushing a specific anchor texts. We lost the juice but wanted to show google that we removed the links anyway.

    I did the disavow process and am about (today.tomorrow) to send the reconsideration request.

    I will be more than happy to post the progress, results in rankings etc if people think its useful.
     
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    It depends on what your link portfolio looks like. If you have a high percentage of quality links, then I would ignore the warnings and just work on obtaining higher quality links. It sounds as though they took specific action against particular links and you lost their juice, thus dropping you 3-6 positions.

    I have done quite a few cleanups on sites with disavows and reconsideration request. I've only seen slight recovery on one site. Most others have seen zero difference, if not have gotten worse. The only reason I even attempted cleanups on these sites is because they are big brand authority type sites.

    I would continue building links for a couple months. If in the meantime you get hit again, or nothing changes, you may want to consider your options at that point.
     
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    I have helped a client come back from an unnatural links penalty, although it wasn't a major one, I submitted quite a few of the links that I found through the disavow tool and also contacted a few sites to remove some of the links. Contacting site owners had quite a low response rate here but I used a generic catch all email so wasn't expecting a huge benefit.

    Whilst doing this I was also building high quality links to the site.

    Anyway that worked but did take about 2 months from the start to see rank improvements. Not sure what was the main benefit to the site, although I got a happy client that now knows more about how Google can ruin businesses overnight.

    Good look, might be a long road ahead.
     
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    Did they give you any examples of the links they were talking about? Usually they don't at first and you do the usual go through check links to make sure they're not bad ones. If they are, get rid (send e-mails to sites - good to use your gmail for this so G knows you're doing it) then do reconsideration request.

    if they're still not happy, they'll send you examples of the links they don't like and you can take it from there. I had some ass competitor try to slam our site with 'unnatural links' and after a week G saw what was going on and revoked the penalty.
     
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    Google wants to promote the disavow tool, so the responsibility of bad links ends up with the webmasters and not with them.
     
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    I've done lots of work on one of my sites, including disavow tool, manual link removal and submission of reconsideration request AND recently tried diluting anchor profile.

    But I have had very little luck to be honest.
     
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    i use high pr links for my money site but not sape and still fine...
     
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    They're SAPE links, and I haven't removed them yet because the drop hasn't been huge so far. The site was high authority and had a pretty good link profile, but was -300 before SAPE. I'm wondering if they just devalued *some* of the SAPE links but the others are still contributing good juice. Or, the hammer hasn't fully fallen yet, which is what I'm really expecting.
     
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    When it hit on my site, I didn't know what the heck to do so I just kept pounding out good content hoping that would do it, but then within a month everything started dropping quickly. Keep an eye on your Webmaster Tools for the querys and see if they start dropping. If they don't at all you're very lucky, but if they do, start dumping those bad links.

     
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    I had a penalty removed last week and rankings are all back on the first page.

    Have you tried removing the links they asked you to? You need to show them you're actually doing something. Buy link-detox and create a disavow file with all the legitimately toxic links, put some effort in and they will remove it. It might take a few tries and they will give you sample links but if you do the work they will remove it.

    We're now removing another unnatural links penalty.
     
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    What about the content of your site?? Was it of high quality?? One of my main site was penalized back in jaunuary 2013 and I figured out it was due to the Google Panda
    update. I figured out there were many problems in my site like excessive use of bold characters, thin content and copy cats copying my content on their site. I had to re-do my site from scratch and it took me around 4 months to completely remake it. And on 5th month it came back and this time with more power and authority.
     
  20. agent_mango

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    I've revoked 2 of my clients manual penalty. But haven't recovered from the rankings. Adding high PR links doesn't work or may be i need more. I got them links from type A sites (PR 7-9) but still no increase from organic traffic. It sucks >.< that I'm losing these clients. They are big brands.