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Has anyone ever been sued for spamming bigger social networks?

Discussion in 'Social Networking Sites' started by Sindragosa, Jul 24, 2016.

  1. Sindragosa

    Sindragosa Regular Member

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    I would like to know how likely it is for people who are spamming FB, IG, Snapchat, Kik etc to get sued by those companies and actually lose in court?

    Is it only big email spammers who send out millions of email daily who are getting into trouble or are the little smaller fishes also in danger?

    I have never heard of anyone getting sued by any of the bigger platforms, it seems like they just ban accounts and never investigate who is behind the spam.
     
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    They do go after big spammers, scammers and bot coders mostly, also the networks they work for. I think gimme4free could tell you a lot about that. He aren't allowed to go anywhere near ig or FB anymore. :)
    If i'm not mistaken Adscendmedia, Maxbounty was already sued by FB out of the bigger CPA networks.

    But Google is your friend.
    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=facebook+spammer+sued

    In short, if you're planning something big, you better be out of the reach of the social networks and their lawyers.
     
  3. Sindragosa

    Sindragosa Regular Member

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    Thanks, maybe @gimme4free could get in here and share a few words?

    Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like it's generally safe for "smaller" spammers who earn around $1k a day by just spamming in terms of creating lots of accounts and reaching out to as many people as possible are pretty safe fishes?

    For example, Spam King who got sued by Facebook were literally stealing other peoples accounts instead of only creating his own spam accounts. This is probably making things much much worse than if he would just have created his own accounts to spam with.

    But still, creating your own accounts to spam with should be illegal as well.
     
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    Question has been asked many times before and the answer is "YES"
     
  5. Sindragosa

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    I haven't found a single case where a "small fish" has been in court for spamming. Could you give me an example of this?
     
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    A "small fish" is unlikely to end up in court, as normally they would just ban the account or send a cease and desist. BUT it doesn't mean every case will be the same.
    There is no safe amount of spam but the more money you make and attention you receive is likely to be a factor, if you stay under the radar then you will possibly be safer.
    If you are at all concerned about it then you shouldn't do it.
    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=site:blackhatworld.com+sued+by+facebook
     
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    Unless you have 500.000 accounts and above and do serious damage to their network I doubt anyone will ever notice you. Most they will do is close the accounts if you're not careful.
     
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    I won't give you examples/names but I know 2 different small guys that used to spam like you are talking about and both had 7 figure judgements placed against them.
     
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    wow, really? never though they would have cared/noticed small fish like this. haven't see any news/ anyone talking about something like that so they might keep it really in-house.

    @op.. given the above, disregard my last post :D seems it is possible..
     
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    What were they doing?
     
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    Do you know what platform they spammed and if they were living outside US?
     
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    If you make them lose money or you're harming their users, they will go after you, no matter how big or small.
    I had a friend who once got a Cease and Desist letter to his house, how they got his address is beyond me.
    If you are located in a country like India or Eastern Europe, you make it much much harder to them to bother going after you, but if you're US located, well better be extra careful
     
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  13. Sindragosa

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    I'm from Europe, not Eastern though. Well, where is the limit of "harming their users"? If I create an IG account and make a comment on a random photo saying that they are ugly or whatever I would technically be harming IG's users. It's obvious that I can't get in trouble for that. However if I scale it up to 1,000 IG accounts and doing the same on all of them, would I then be in trouble? Where is the line?
     
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    They were in the USA; in fact one of them lived about 4 miles from me.
     
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    As long as you're not stealing legit accounts, or having users follow people without their consent, or tricking them into giving you money, it should be fine. You can call them ugly lol.
    FB (and by extension IG) has a lot of presence in Ireland in order to avoid taxes, depending on how well your country gets along with Ireland, is in how much trouble you could get if caught.
    I think most company deal with this crap on a per minute basis, so it's also more of an unlucky lottery if they decide you're pissing them off that moment.
    Thread carefully and always be smart
     
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    The line is the ToS it is essentially a contract and most of the time it isn't worthwhile or cost effective going after the small fry but it doesn't guarantee they won't.

    As for calling somebody ugly on IG you could get in trouble if you were trolling or harassing somebody. In many places that would be a police matter.
     
  17. Sindragosa

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    I would never sink as low as stealing other peoples money, accounts or anything that could get them in trouble, I can't live with that. I like people and I don't want to harm anyone. I can just imagine how much easy money those "your bank account's password is outdated and needs to be updated, click here to change it" email spammers are making each day.

    However, if (not saying that I'm doing this) stealing 5 minutes of peoples lives (CPA/CPI) makes me rich, then I have absolutely no issue with doing that for a living. I could donate thousands of dollars to charities and I wouldn't feel even a tiny bit guilty for "scamming" those people on a few minutes of their lives, which I just see as bad karma for them as they're trying to hack coins in some mobile game (no, i'm not doing hack niches, i'm just trying to set an example). I would rather feel proud for converting 5 minutes of thousands of peoples lives into money that goes to a good cause and actually save lifes. Yeah, I would convert minutes to lives.
     
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  18. Sindragosa

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    I didn't know breaking a ToS was illegal except if the rule you break is illegal by law, but then it doesn't really have anything to do with breaking the ToS. It would be inhuman for people to read the ToS so I don't see how breaking a ToS could ever get me in any more trouble than just getting suspended from the service I'm breaking the ToS on.
     
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    It is civil, not criminal, and thus not illegal in the sense that you would be committing a crime but rather breaking a contract.
     
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    Just because you believe something is true doesn't mean it is.
    As I have said this has been discussed numerous times on BHW, and every time the OP never wants to believe what is being said.

    When you sign up for an account anywhere you nearly always have to tick to confirm that you have read the ToS, hardly anybody does but that is irrelevant.
    ToS are a contract between you and the service provider. Contracts are enforceable by Law.

    I am NOT a LAWYER so you should seek professional advice if you are concerned.