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Has anybody ever seeked legal action for not getting paid on YT?

Discussion in 'YouTube' started by PredatorKingdom, Jun 1, 2016.

  1. PredatorKingdom

    PredatorKingdom Registered Member

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    I've heard stories before of people that were involved in networks seeking legal action so it's something I'm thinking about since this happened to me way in the past where networks unlink me when it's time to pay up.

    I've always normally let it go but I'm not going to let it go this time so I really want to either get the money they owe me or completely sue them.

    If you've ever seeked legal action in the past please help me out here as I am serious on going this route.
     
  2. fxmas

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    Which network was you involved in?


    EDIT: Just read your other post, have you tried emailing the network as to why you were removed, was you using copyright material etc?
     
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  3. PredatorKingdom

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    I was involved in ScaleLab Networks and their sub-networks VOUStudios and Zic Network.
     
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    Just read your other post, have you tried emailing the network as to why you were removed, was you using copyright material etc?
     
  5. PredatorKingdom

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    I just emailed them today as they sent me that email last night and they never gave me a reason in that message why I was unlinked but I am giving them a chance to respond to me first. I was using copyright material but my accounts were in good standing which is why this surprised me especially since they paid me last month on-time. The only reason why I joined up with them because I heard they didn't review copyright material.
     
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    I will look into this for you, have you just recently started using traffic exchange sources or such? A bit weird how you got paid last month but not this month...
     
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    Thanks man I really appreciate your help dude and understanding of this situation.

    It is very weird that they paid last month but not this month usually when this happens the networks never pay you dime. I did not use a traffic exchange source or anything as all of my views and stuff was legit.

    I did just get an email from them and this is what they wrote:

    We are happy you contacted our network support team. After further review of your channel, we have determined that your channel has the possibility to be reported as fraud. By partnering your channel we would be assuming a major liability. We are not able to offer your channel a partnership at this time. We wish you all the best for the success of you and your channel.

    What do they mean by fraud, I'm about to respond to them now about what they mean by fraud. Are they referring to traffic exchange source? I did not use that.
     
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    If you were using copyrighted material, you'd have no standing in court.

    They would bring that up and simply state that they were not in a "position to assume a major liability" by partnering with a channel dealing in Copyrighted material.

    They will also state that all "Advertiser" payments were either refunded or adjusted to views/clicks from other partners.

    As far as last month's payment is concerned, they could simply write it off as an oversight at that end.

    Had this been about original content, this would've been a completely different scenario.
     
  9. PredatorKingdom

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    That's why I usually let it go because I know the copyright aspect could go against me but I've read some cases in my research where lawyers will try to do everything possible to keep a case like this from going to court and try to bully the networks into paying over the money that's what I'm looking into. What I want to fight has nothing to do with the content itself it's about these YouTube networks being reliable for not accepting channels with copyright material in the first place and allowing money to be generated into their networks. This network already messed up paying me last month because they don't have an excuse for paying me one month then not paying the next. This is obviously a case where they are scamming their partners and this is what I'm trying to fight.
     
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    You are at a misunderstanding here.

    For starters, I am not sure on how deep your pockets are. But a lawyer worth his salt who has the capacity to "bully" a network doesn't come cheap.

    Secondly, what happens if/when they goto court?

    Third, the onus to cheat or not falls on you. They have several partners and there are several million videos on the internet. It is a generic assumption on your ethics that you're supposed to use original content and a clean profile. They also have it clear in their Terms that they have the right to suspend your account if they find something wrong. Realistically, all they have to prove is that you were using copyrighted material, thereby increasing their liability and when they discovered this, they suspended your account.

    Out of curiosity, what is the amount owed here?
     
  11. PredatorKingdom

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    No I understand you just fine, everything you said I already knew about I was just looking for ways to go about this.

    I'm hoping it doesn't get to the point where I would have to go to court. My pockets aren't too deep which is why I am doing extensive research on it first.

    They also have some explaining to do on their end how you can make money with someone who was a copyright liability since February 1st and now it's a problem for them. I've been with them for four months you're telling me they couldn't cut me loose in February or March? This is four damn months, what excuse do they really have for allowing this to go that far?

    I'm pretty sure they took their cut and kept that money when they paid me the first time.

    They owed me close to $1,000 for the month of April and $2,000 for the month of May which isn't supposed to be paid until July 1st.
     
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    You were in breach of their ToS. You haven't got a leg to stand on and any Lawyer that accepts the case is just out to milk you for fees. For those months you were paid and the network didn't notice you used copyrighted material they could actually sue YOU to reclaim that money.

    Take the hit and move on.
     
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    Couldn't have said it better.
     
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    Take the hit and move on, easy for you guys to say, so me and others in my position are supposed to keep getting hit and the mouth and take it from these scammers? That's some bullshit and you guys know it. No help at all
     
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    Well maybe if you hadn't used copyrighted material then you wouldn't have got banned and they would have had to pay you. You agreed to their ToS when you signed with them. No point bitching about it now.
     
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    Before you go about mouthing us or calling BS to the rebuttals of members who are taking the time to guide you and prevent you from losing any more money. You might want to consider a few key facts.

    1. You don't own the content you're claiming payment for. Also, you're inviting yourself to further lawsuits from the original copyright holders.
    2. $3000 is pretty much chump change for the network.
    3. $3000 is also not worth the legal fee incurred when hiring a good lawyer.
    4. $3000 is not worth getting counter-sued and having to pay back the earlier payment along with their legal fee.
    5. $3000 is also not worth a libel/defamation suit bought against you for posting in a public forum and naming the network.
    6. Four months is not a long time for a court. They can claim that you said you owned the content, but then someone reported you. Also, technically they cut you off in the second month when their audit team discovered that you were a potential liability. Even 9 to 5 jobs have 6 month long probation periods.
    7. $3000 is not worth becoming an untouchable in the network market where no other network would touch you with a six foot pole, simply for the fact that you're lawsuit-happy.

    Lastly, I totally sympathize with you. But non-paying networks are an unfortunate reality of our industry.

    Man up, swallow it and move the fuck on.

    Every minute you waste on this is a minute not spent making money. Go out, hustle more and from here on don't dump all your eggs in one basket.
     
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    i'm also partnered with VOUStudios and i've just received a unlink email and i don't know whats happening, i was waiting for my 300$ to be paid but now it's gone... i was working hard to earn that much money and they just fooled me and took it away ? how i am supposed to get my money back from VOUStudios now...
     
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  18. fxmas

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    I guess you could try emailing asking for a partial payment or just leave it and count your losses..

    @BMike47

    Have you read this thread? Were you using any copyright material at all or from the cc. Also is your content 100% unique?
     
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    i use copyrighted music less than 30 seconds in my compilations and videos, and i never got any matched third party content on them and what so ever.
    i do gaming stuff and i record the game footage myself but i actually have a copyright strike that expires at the end of june. But the copyright was discussed with VOUStudios in details, and they were okay with it... it's unfair to not receive my money, at least they could have paidme before banning.
     
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    And what will happen now with the applications we had access to? like epidemic sound and audiomicro, i can't access them anymore?