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Has any AMs ever challenged you on blank referrer?

Discussion in 'CPA' started by Fakker, Jun 7, 2011.

  1. Fakker

    Fakker Regular Member

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    We all know how important is blanking the referrer when using BH methods with CPA offers.

    Provided that we should bring some "clean" traffic and not just BH, I still want to put myself on AM's shoes to see what I'd do if one of my affiliate's had relevant earnings with blank referrer.

    My question is:

    Has any AM ever challenged you as of why most of your earnings are coming from offers with blank referrer?




    1) If YES: what have you responded and did this keep your account safe? :baby09:

    2) If NO: what are, in your opinion, the possible reasons for a AM not asking explanations on massive blank referrer concentration in your earnings?



    I suppose a non exhaustive list reasons can be the following, but I would appreciate if you could add more or comment on what I'll list.
    That would of benefit for me and possibly for other noobs like me:


    • they suspect you do BH, but they just don't care
    Even if you promise your wife or your house in change of an email submit, as long as you cover your tracks and advertiser is not shouting, they are happy with this;

    • they just take for granted you are doing email marketing and none of your users are reading emails from the web (the referrer would be the relevant webmail instead)


    • they take for granted you are cloaking your links into PDFs/docs


    Thanks in advance for any comment and contribution.
     
  2. ibira

    ibira Registered Member

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    If you're bringing in quality leads, they won't care for the referer. Also, if you're bringing bad leads, they won't care if the referer is something legit, and will cut you off or refuse to pay you.
     
  3. crashed

    crashed Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I always make friends with my AM's and tell them my tracking software blanks or replaces the referrer but if they want I can give them logs :D
     
  4. Fakker

    Fakker Regular Member

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    Good point that raise a new question.

    Most of the CPAs i am working with are Content Lockers.
    Content Lockers show any type of offer to user willing to go ahead and see the website, download the file, see the picture etc...

    How can they tell a bad lead or a good lead if it's the content locker itself that shows, say, supermarket coupons to people looking for, say, game cheats?
     
  5. meathead1234

    meathead1234 Moderator Staff Member Moderator Premium Member

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    This is down to the advertisers. They will let the network know if they aren't happy with leads - as they won't be converting on their backend.

    Just because the offer is irrelevant to the site - doesn't mean it won't convert for the advertiser. Try pick offers that would be relevant to your demographic and then you're likely to see higher conversion rates on your end and the advertiser should be happy with the leads too. If you insist on them completing irrelevant offers all the time, then you're probably going to piss off a few advertisers.
     
  6. Fakker

    Fakker Regular Member

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    In the point you are quoting I digressed from my own topic and I was not referring to a specific offer but to content gateway, for which I have no control.

    It's the network deciding what to show the offers to put into the content locker (unless I do that manually, which is something the CPAs i work with do not recommend).

    Are you saying instead that I should choose my offer manually anyway to fit them to the content I am trying to protect?
     
  7. meathead1234

    meathead1234 Moderator Staff Member Moderator Premium Member

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    Part of the reason I use a self-hosted content locker is so that I can pick and rotate any offers I want and not rely on one network.

    If your network doesn't let you choose offers by default, then I'd recommend asking them. I tend to ignore anything they say and just try all the offers, removing those with the lowest EPCs.

    One of the reasons some of the networks "decide" which offers to show for you is so they can spread leads across their advertisers to keep them all happy. Some may also only pay for a certain number of leads, so they don't want one publisher taking all of these and running the risk of poor quality leads.
     
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  8. dutch101

    dutch101 Registered Member

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    they never asked me.. guess they satisfied on their end
     
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    xxMP3xx Regular Member

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    @meathead1234 you manually pick offers or ur locker picks on basis of best epc ? Because thats what I am designing right now.
     
  10. 1825tulane

    1825tulane Newbie

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    never had a problem
     
  11. meathead1234

    meathead1234 Moderator Staff Member Moderator Premium Member

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    I manually pick them. I usually just put a bunch of offers in at the start, and then remove those that don't convert well after I've sent a few thousand clicks.