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Harming Competition... Please Read This

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by jonheres, Feb 8, 2014.

  1. jonheres

    jonheres Registered Member

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    Hi guys.

    I know this may sound pretty basic to some of you. But as i keep reading about google algos changes, how now mass inbound links (spam) harms ranks , and all the things about content being king, i wonder how really true it is .

    For example: Lets say i have a business page ranked in page 2 in google SERPS .. Let say ive gone all the way up using nothing but good old white hat seo, great content, updated, great onsite seo.

    If instead of trying to speed things up by creating thousands of links to my site in a constant basis, since yeah, it will do HARM (so everybody say) .. i just hire 10 different services.. spend some money and do that to the domain name of the sites that are ranking above me (competition, page 1 serps).

    Im am not saying here this is something i intend to do, im just trying to understand if link building that way will really harm sites , make no difference or really benefit them.

    I mean, wouldnt a lot of people will be link spamming the hell out of their competitions domains to see them drop ? ... Even more important in sites that are in niches that DO no create natural organic links in a huge quantity (like media and news sites)

    Thanks for helping me clearing this up!
     
  2. ThopHayt

    ThopHayt Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    You must have not been around here for a quite a while. This is old news. Worked a while, but has proven to be a red herring recently. That ship too has sailed.
     
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    It will work, but people can just disavow the links.
    And its not a good thing for competition. They can do the same to you also if they get angry..
    Don't waste your time, just make your site better
     
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  4. NathanEG

    NathanEG Power Member

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    That was mean of me. Just work on your site man. Stop inquiring about your negative SEO and worrying about your competitors. Do YOU.
     
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  5. jonheres

    jonheres Registered Member

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    First of all ,

    I don´t understand why people don´t seem to read things before commenting or attacking? Sore looser? Blow at Seo?

    My thread is clearly about finding out or understanding if Links Build in a spammy way are relevant to Ranking.

    As i stated in my original message.

    As for the guru who calls me a looser .. i wonder how successfull you are .. you are invited to compare numbers with me publicly anytime.

    Show some respect to others man. Its not that hard.

    Jon
     
  6. funkybunker

    funkybunker Supreme Member

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    Nathan didn't read it.

    Jonheres, building a handful of Authority links with some Social Signals (for shits & giggles) tends to finish the job. Are you asking if mass-spam to your website will rank it? That hasn't been effective for many years.
     
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  7. jonheres

    jonheres Registered Member

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    Hi FunnyBunker,

    First, thanks for replying, i really appreciate it. Second, i do understand thats the common knowledge.

    I was just wondering why, if link spamming a domain name hurts SEO so bad, and people knows about it, how come there not a bunch of people doing it to their competition domains. I mean, i know by now a lot of people have tried that , without success probably.. so it raises the question on how really relevant or harmfull they are ?

    As an example: Check these search phrase.

    Diseño Web Panama , which transaltes in panama web desing.

    After a quick look at it , you may see that the top 3 sites has ten of thousands cheap links directed to them and they create links daily ..

    So im just trying to understan in depth.. i do know the common collective percpetion about this, which is that is not good.. but looking at the whole picture from another angle just makes me wonder.
     
  8. funkybunker

    funkybunker Supreme Member

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    Impressive keyword choice, since it's apparently $5 a click (only useful for MNS).

    The #1 spot is taken by a site that's 5 years old, and recently updated October last year. It's the only one out of 3 spots using Government links as well.
    Looks to me that Age once again comes into play, and perhaps building these links over the years rather than blasting.
     
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    Really? I have bankaccount filled with money that says otherwise, but keep singing the Matt Cutts propaganda songs, as i can do without the competition ;)
     
  10. NathanEG

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    See the post above
     
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  11. Jodly

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    People are not doing it because it won't actually help them in the long run. For one, the competitor can simply disavow the bad links. For two, he can do the same for you, meaning that you'll have to disavow a ton of backlinks as well. So, instead of building quality backlinks and making money, you and the competitors you decide to attack will spend your time on disavowing bad backlinks, and neither of you will make money.
     
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    Its well and ALIVE! People just do it quietly, just like illegal drugs. Most would not come out and admit it, but it's a jungle out in the SEO world. Google is just laughing as we do the dirty work for them.
     
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    The big problem with that cheap links techniques is that you have to do a steady flow, that cost money so you better have a good ROI