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gyaseen1986 Is a Scammer, Extortionist, and Tried to Buy a Fake Positive Review for BHW

Discussion in 'The Shit List' started by TrailBlazer, Nov 14, 2013.

  1. TrailBlazer

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    Here is the story to expose this scammer and get him banned from here.

    I found him on this thread http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/making-money/352057-tut-how-i-make-least-3000-week-3.html I saw he was recommended there as a person who can set up interspire on linux servers. That thread provides his skype IM, his forum username is: gyaseen1986

    I contacted him on skype and asked him if instead of having him set me up with a new server with interspire, if he has a service with a working server that I can send out 5k emails a day. He said he does and agreed to allow me to send 5k emails a day, for a price of $65 a month. He insisted I make the payment through Elance so that I can give him good feedback. He also wanted me to release money from escrow instantly and close the project on there. I figured since he was recommended here on BHW and I didn't see anything negative about him I could trust him. I was WAY WRONG.

    Here is the skype log of the agreement we had (note I am using skype on Trillian that's why the logs don't look like typical skype logs, but I can provide those too if requested since skype also logs them):

    Owner: do you have a solution where I can give you some emails, and a message to send, and you use your servers to blast the emails?
    and I pay you for each blast you do? so I can test it that way before I setup my own?


    gyaseen1986: yes sure we have such setups also

    Owner: how do you work the pricing for that?

    gyaseen1986: how many emails you need to send per day?

    Owner: 5k a day to start

    gyaseen1986: ok, $65 per month

    What he did is set me up with a brand new server that never mailed before, and a brand new domain. This is not what we had agreed to, our understanding was that I could use his already set up system that he claimed he had to send 5k emails a day, but instead he gave me a brand new server. I realized he did a bate and switch on me with the deal but decided to go ahead and try to mail on my own anyways. After he set up the server and I tested it with sending some generic non html emails saying things like "hey are we still on for wendensday" to about 500 emails, I found they all were going into spam folder.

    He told me the solution was to warm up the server by sending 500 emails a day for a few day, then it will be fine. I did do that for days, sending out only 500 generic and different non html emails. Still days later they weren't hitting inbox. I asked him for help and he basically tried to blame it on the message I was sending, even though it was generic and never hit inbox from day one, then I asked him for more help and he ignored me. Here are those logs:

    Owner: all my emails are still going into spam folders
    for every service, gmail, yahoo, hotmail
    and I warmed up the server
    I am even sending generic non html messages like
    "Hi, remember me, what are you up to.""
    and those are going into spam
    any idea why i'm not hitting inbox?


    Owner: are you going to help me?


    gyaseen1986: what kind of campaign are you running?


    Owner: I just did test messages
    like "hey are we still on this wendnesday for the meeting"
    all my messages were regular with no urls in them
    do you have any servers set up, that you are able to send mail with that are going into inbox?




    gyaseen1986: well, if you are sending email marketing, and your subscribers mark your email as spam
    then no one can help


    Owner: don't blame it on that


    gyaseen1986: who knows


    Owner: no one is marking it as spam
    the emails never went into the inbox in the first place




    gyaseen1986: well, this is the best IP i could give you
    we dont have better than the ip i gave you


    Innovator: why do you think the messages are going in spam folder then
    because of domain?


    He then signs off here

    Also note that during this time of a few days of me trying to ask him for help, he would rarely ever reply, going as far as telling me his time is "precious" and that I shouldn't be bothering him.

    Now today this shady scammers true self shines. I ask him for a refund since he wont' help me find a solution and didn't even provide me with the service I payed for in the first place, he says he will only refund me $25 of my purchase because he "has no money in his pocket" I told him to give me that refund as a gift to my PayPal account because I wanted to get back as much of my money as I could from him and his service that provided 0 value to me. He said he will send $25 as a fake payment for a product only, and that the terms are I have to leave him good feedback on Elance, where he made me pay him through. I told him I would do so, but, instead I left him feedback telling how he extorted me for the feedback, and that he provided a lie of a service, and not to hire him.

    While the feedback was pending from showing up he asked me how I found him, I told him on BHW. He told me link him to my profile because he wants a review on here too. I linked him to a different profile that was not mine. He then agreed to extort me for 2 fake reviews on BHW, and a "thanks" in order to refund me $5 of my money. (also keep in mind earlier he said he didn't have anymore than $25 because his pockets were empty." He sent the payment with another note to my paypal account saying he purchased a product from me, of course he did this so he can file a chrageback for the payments later. I told him I would write the fake reviews on BHW, but of course I would never do that.

    This guy needs to be banned and his username needs to disappear from the threads others have unfortunately recommended him, here are the logs of the remainder of what happened.

    gyaseen1986: well, i have paid $40 for your sending
    i cant get refund from smtp.com


    Owner: ok can you refund me 35 then


    gyaseen1986: no point of such hard work and refund you 55%
    i have only $20 in my account
    do i not worth $5?


    Owner: well...
    I lose more money
    because I had to pay the fee on the freelance site


    gyaseen1986: and i cant pay from my pocket
    gyaseen1986: any ways
    i give you $25 which i had from you in my pocket


    Owner: and, I thought I was buying a service that you already had working to send 5k emails
    not a virgin server
    give me at least 30


    gyaseen1986: i dont have
    and i cant loose
    the account will be active


    Owner: I had to pay 70 something


    gyaseen1986: for all time


    Owner: and I got nothing in return bro


    gyaseen1986: because i cant give them back


    Owner: what are you talking about?


    gyaseen1986: i dont have


    Owner: bro, give me at least $30 back
    we are both losing here
    find $5
    that shouldn't be hard


    gyaseen1986: i dont have a penny


    Owner: you do all this freelance work and you're telling me you can't find $5


    gyaseen1986: and no refund for you


    Owner: that doesn't sound right


    gyaseen1986: i have 0$


    Owner: you're not going to give me my $25 either?


    gyaseen1986: if you dont listen to me then yes no refunds
    i spent time with you
    and then pay $5 additional


    Owner: ok send me the 25
    yeah but I got 0 value from you and your service
    just please give me the 25 back


    gyaseen1986: well,
    i am so sorry for what has happened so far
    give me paypal id


    Owner: paypalemail@paypaemail.com (edited out by me)
    please send it as a gift
    gyaseen1986: it will come from
    edit@ymail.com
    conditions applied
    there?
    conditions


    Owner: yes, please send
    what??


    gyaseen1986: refund only if you give me feedback at elance.com


    Owner: ok np


    gyaseen1986: will come as gift only if you provide feedback now
    other wise will send them as sold some thing


    Owner: dude you won't send it then
    if I provide feeback


    gyaseen1986: and if i provide money you will disappear?\


    Owner: just please give it to me and i'll put what ever feedback you want me to
    no I promise I will post feedback
    I just don't want my loss to be anymore than it already is
    and I payed the taxes last time, so send as gift this time and taxes are low


    gyaseen1986: promise i will send it
    give me good feedback and i do it asap


    Owner: ok send first and I will leave feedback


    gyaseen1986: i will send you $27 but wont be a gift


    Owner: ok fine
    as long as I get 25


    Owner: ok I got it


    gyaseen1986: yes
    wait


    Owner: what do you want me to say in your feedback?


    gyaseen1986: nice email marketer, i will use them again for sure


    Owner: ok
    tnx,


    gyaseen1986: let me know once done


    Owner: i just hit send :)


    gyaseen1986: i dont see it appeared but i will wait


    Owner: it said upto 24hrs I think
    but I did post it, promise


    gyaseen1986: how did you find me for first time?


    Owner: I think on bhw


    gyaseen1986: you have a profile there?


    Owner: yeah


    gyaseen1986: give me link to your profile?
    can you help me there?


    Owner: why?
    how?


    gyaseen1986: what if i give you the same account for another 7 days
    for free?


    Owner: well I don't need this account anymore


    gyaseen1986: give me your profile link?


    Owner: I have high rep on bhw
    one sec
    (edited link of someone elses profile out)


    gyaseen1986: $5
    ?


    Owner: $10 bro
    please


    gyaseen1986: sorry, no more funds i have


    Owner: ok 5


    gyaseen1986: let me give you link where you need to comment


    Owner: ok


    gyaseen1986: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/making-money/352057-tut-how-i-make-least-3000-week-3.html


    Owner: ok do you have a profile there on bhw?
    or should I just say your elance?


    gyaseen1986: i am telling you what to say


    Owner: ok
    what should I say?


    gyaseen1986: Well, i approached to gyaseen1986 for mail server setup and he was good at responding and his team is good for support. he is present at freelancer.com and elance.com with name linuxfreak1985 and sky-pe id: gyaseen1986 feel free to contact him if you need assistance, his BHW id: gyaseen1986


    Owner: ok i'll post that in the thread
    can you send the $5 as gift, or $7 as not gift


    gyaseen1986: $6 not as a gift, you will need to post 2 times, i will give you 2nd thread also


    Owner: ok give me 2nd thread


    gyaseen1986: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/making-money/383070-bulk-e-mailing.html


    gyaseen1986 is correct, i used him before also. this is all in all good setup and nice optimization he has recommended. i recommend gyaseen1986 to all, he is present at freelancer.com and elance.com with name linuxfreak1985 and sky-pe id: gyaseen1986.
    at the beneath, you will see i posted
    also do 1 thanks for me


    Owner: ok np
    i will do it as soon as you send the 6 :)
    let me know when you sent it


    gyaseen1986: and make thanks for the post


    Owner: ok did u send payment?


    gyaseen1986: (y)


    Owner: ok


    Owner: I have an appointment to go to right now


    gyaseen1986: i will keep waiting


    Owner: I will post when I get back






    I then filed a dispute on Elance, and once he got the notificaiton he sent me the following:






    gyaseen1986: so you want me to dispute at paypal.com


    Owner: you're a scammer
    and you're gonna get banned from bhw


    gyaseen1986: ok fine


    Owner: elance.com
    and i'll get you banned from freelancer.com too


    gyaseen1986: sure sure
    you do your best
    :D
    and you are a biggest scammer
    you think you are an intelligent man
    (chuckle)
    go ahead, i will proceed with the dispute at elance.com
    and dispute at paypal.com
    thank you
    what do you want?


    Owner: just wait till you see the review I left you


    gyaseen1986: but why you doing it?


    Owner: you will get 0 service when people read it
    that is if you're not banned by then


    gyaseen1986: i refund you
    we agreed


    Owner: you're a f***g scammer


    gyaseen1986: is this way of speaking with people?


    Owner: I PM'd the Mod at BHW and told him to remove any mention of your name in those threads


    gyaseen1986: but why?
    why are you doing it?


    Owner: and i'm showing the logs that you tried to buy a fake review


    gyaseen1986: again scammer
    how?


    Owner: you're a scammer
    that tried to extort me
    telling me you only have 25 dollars to your name
    but then sending me 5 more
    for a fake review
    liar and scammer


    gyaseen1986: this is almost more than what you are doing


    Owner: big mistake today buddy
    you just lost tons and tons of future business now


    gyaseen1986: you are just doing unfair here
    i dont mind for business
    but the language you have used is very unfair
    and this is not fair to turn your back after you are paid
    you must matter to your funds only
    i dont want to dispute you at elance.com
    and paypal also
    want this matter resolved here
    well


    Owner: I tried resolving the matter with you buddy


    gyaseen1986: i did not


    Owner: and you try to extort and scam me


    gyaseen1986: we dealt fairly
    you said you agree and then i sent the funds


    Owner: now you will pay the consequences


    gyaseen1986: if you were saying NO then i were not doing
    well, this is not good way of doing business and dealing with people
    i am sure, you are a good man
    and we can still reach a good deal if you like
    and i will make sure i dont repeat this kind of idiotic method of getting reviews
    please i know you are a good man and surely you dont want to punish me
    :$
    please
    (tmi)
    bro
    please
    hello




    The evidence here is clear, this man should not be allowed to do business here on BHW, he is beyond shady and very dishonest. I hope the mods take proper action against him. I will in the meantime be working with the freelance sites he's on to get him banned from there as well.
     
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    gyaseen1986 is the accused and has been notified he has 48 hours to respond with his side of the story.

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    Hi there,

    the user has been already refunded his funds plus $31, so he paid $70 and we paid him $101, here is skype chat


    [5:48:30 PM] Dee: I will say you gave me refund
    [5:48:33 PM] Dee: that is it
    [5:48:41 PM] Dee: I am being fair
    [5:48:43 PM] Dee: nothing else
    [5:49:35 PM] LinuxFreakz Yaseen: i will say there


    "Lesson learnt, refund provided to employer. he is good man, i will make sure i dont do unfair again. will say thanks to you"
    [5:50:15 PM] Dee: say what you want
    [5:50:21 PM] Dee: I will say you gave me refund
    [5:50:48 PM] Dee: we will see
    [5:50:54 PM] LinuxFreakz Yaseen: ok thanks


    let me know if you need more clarifications
     
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    plus i apologize the user here also so that we are clear that we wont do such thing again.
     
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    TrailBlazer, please verify that this is completed and I will remove it.

    Thanks,
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    The only refund he sent me was a partial one of $30, a $25 payment he gave me as a refund in an attempt to extort a positive review from me on Elance, and then a $5 partial refund he sent me as an attempt to extort two positive reviews here on BHW. I had payed $70 total through Elance for his service that he lied he had and that he bait and switched me into another one.

    I filed a dispute on Elance for the payment, he agreed to refund me there ONLY after he saw that I left him a negative review, and I told him I posted a shit list thread. He first even filed chargebacks through paypal for the two extortion refunds he sent me for the fake reviews he wanted. He then closed the disputes after I told him I will leave negative reviews about his scamming and extortionist ways around the internet.

    The deal here is I did not receive my initial $70 as a refund back, possibly because I already released it from escrow and Elance can't get it back.

    His service was a lie, his support was beyond horrible when I tried to work with the alternate service he did provide, telling me "his time is precious" when I asked basic questions about the setup that wasn't working.

    And secondly, the fact that he tried to buy fake reviews on BHW while also extorting me for a refund for a service he didn't provide means he should get banned from here. Does this community really want someone who is willing to pay for fake reviews, lie about services, and not provide refunds?

    His saying his sorry and willing to send refunds was all done AFTER THE FACT of getting caught, not because all of a sudden he turned into a good guy. Isn't it a violation of BHW TOS to pay for fake reviews? Shouldn't that alone get him banned from here?

    I vote he gets banned because he's a proven dishonest person and others shouldn't be fooled into getting swindled by him. Just read in my OP above the fake reviews he wanted me to post here, and take in mind, not for money, but for my own money back, and not even my full amount of money back, a part of it.

    How disgusting, but his worthless plan backfired on him!
     
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    TrailBlazer,

    This isn't a vote as to what happens - so your opinion is noted.

    Now, my question to you both is this:

    I don't see where TrailBlazer received anything from his payment, why only a $30 refund out of the $70?

    Also gyaseen1986, why were you trying to make it look like TrailBlazer received a full refund plus the $30, when that wasn't the case?
     
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    I did not receive a full refund, only the $30. I received an email stating he decided to end the dispute I filed on Elance for the $70 in my favor. But no money was refunded from that because no money was left in escrow, because he made me release it upfront.
     
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    Once again, if it's not directly related to this SL, DON'T POST IT.

    It's a SL rule people, I shouldn't have to post that on every thread!

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    HI there,

    the user himself admits that he received email confirmation from elance.com that i approved the dispute in his favor. 2nd, when i approved the dispute in his favor elance.com auto deducated funds from my account.
    If this is not case then why user said me at chat that he will say that he received the refund? i am sure i feel guilty because i tried to deliver the project to this employer, sure i lost server, IPs fees and spent time making his server.
    Regarding fake reviews, no fake review is posted at bhw for me, if i tried but i did not get. Those member who get fake review at compliant to punishment, But also i say that i will not do it again because i learnt a good lesson.
     
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    HI there,

    Another thing to clear, the refund was made to employer 50 hours ago from now. So when we disagree with each other he got refund in 1 hour because he came to threaten me to post at BHW and elance.com also, i paid what he wanted asap
    there was no reason to include me at shit list because the employer was paid 50 hours ago, if he was paid 50 hours he could also avoid posting here, but it seems that he is taking revenge and not understanding that I AM ALREADY SORRY.
    If the employer wants to take revenge then sure, moderator can close my ID, i will sure not come to here again :-(
     
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    3rd thing, read the chat here what employer said


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    [5:48:30 PM] Dee: I will say you gave me refund
    [5:48:33 PM] Dee: that is it
    [5:48:41 PM] Dee: I am being fair

    -------------------------------------------------------------

    the employer said, he got refund, he did not mention he got partial refund? which means now even after the refund is made he is want me banned here. Why? is he own this forum, honestly if some one becomes so hatred to some body that he / she does not want see my at any forum, this means he should be requested to avoid posting about me so unfair.


    [5:22:29 PM] LinuxFreakz Yaseen: well dude
    [5:23:05 PM] LinuxFreakz Yaseen: blackhatworld?
    [5:23:36 PM] Dee: I already made a thread there
    [5:23:39 PM] Dee: in the "shit list" area
    [5:23:48 PM] Dee: it takes upto 48hrs to appear
    [5:23:48 PM] LinuxFreakz Yaseen: :)|
    [5:23:52 PM] Dee: but I will not delete it
    [5:24:00 PM] Dee: I am going to leave it there, and you will be banned from bhw
    [5:24:11 PM] Dee: but I will not chase you down anywhere else
    [5:33:25 PM] Dee: i won't chase you down anywhere else
    [5:33:30 PM] Dee: the thread on bhw I will leave
     
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    I will say, i should be given a chance, i will never again do any mistake and abide my forums TERMS AND rules
     
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    You only agreed to give me a refund after you realized I left you a bad review and told you I posted a thread on BHW.

    I am not trying to get revenge on you, hopefully you did learn a lesson. I just am looking out for other honest people so that this doesn't happen to anyone else.

    Like oldsalt said, my vote doesn't count so I guess the mods will decide what they want to do, and if they ban or don't ban you is upto them not me, whatever they chose I won't have a problem with because they run the place and are in their position because they know what is best in this situation.

    I am not sure how the elance refund is supposed to work, if they deducted it out of your account, how come they didn't send it to me? Does it take longer than it already has been (3 days)?

    And like I told you in Skype 3 days ago, if Elance does refund me my money, I will send back the two PayPal payments you sent me, I don't want to keep anything extra.
     
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    well, i will say that i dont know elance too :)
    Also, if you think that i have learnt a lesson and said sorry then please write in this thread that your issues with me are over. certainly, i take you good person but if you keep insisting that i should be banned then i take it as an insult to me for no reason.
     
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    I think you should contact Elance and see what is going on with the refund. As far as anything else goes, it's up to the mods. I won't say anything else as everything has already been said. One thing is you were apologetic and did try to make things right after you realized I wasn't your fool, which I guess does count for something.
     
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    HI there,

    Sorry DEE, but you also ripped me off at elance.com and did not leave me a chance to have my id placed there also.
    They have sharply suspended my id untill they verify other projects. So it means i cant write them and i cant do any thing there.
    I dont mind loosing this account now :) because bhw account is not useful for me, so thanks for all for your hard work to kick me off this forum and elance.com. I am sure some one like DEE is brutal force to kick ass of a freelancer, DEE you made an awsome job so far, i wish you good luck. But also i feel completely sorrow that your deed has so far torn me,
    You got the refunds from me and apology, but yet you wanted to pursue me at elance.com and bhw just because i did not want to give you back $5 ? surely you have all funds now, you are winner, God bless you bro thanks for ripping me off :(

    Bye
     
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    gyaseen,

    Send me a screenshot of where elance deducted the money from your account.
     
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    Hi OldSalt,

    the employer has already confirmed that i approved his cancelation of project and refund at elance.com. Having said this, i have already mentioned before your message that elance.com has limited my account access and virtually suspended it unless their inquiry is complete. So i can't send you the screenshots or any thing else.
    If the employer wants $40 at paypal then let me know, i will arrange and provide him, surely i can loose more to fix this issue :(
     
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    gyaseen,

    You said it got deducted from your account, meaning you have the other side (bank, credit card - wherever it came out from) so stop playing games and send me a screenshot of where it got deducted from.
     
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