GUERILLA TRAFFIC AND CASH COW! SOS DO NOT SIGN WITH THESE AzzHOLES!!

Ok I know a lot of people on here probably make more money then me, but the little I make I really really need. So anyway, I sign up with cash cow cha ching and they work with guerilla traffic. they tell you to sell cam shows online on craigslist and they say tell the guy you will consider meeting him if after if he does a cam show in order to get the sale. and a bunch of other stuff that seemed shady. They give you 20 per sale. Guerilla traffic pays 30 per sale, she will give you 20 out of that plus everything you need to learn how to do it. She only lets you use 1 link though there are many many many. She is very bossy, makes you work every day and belittles you. not to mention she makes you use your REAL NAME and makes you post it in the forum. So I quit her and went directly for guerilla traffic. I work exactly the way the melissa girl from cash cow taught me. Guerilla traffic and melissa say guerilla traffic will send check 1 week after pay period. BULL SH*T ALERT!!! My check was printed out 10 days after the end of the period PLUS who knows when they sent it, cuz I didn't get it till 8 days after it was printed. So 18 days after period you finally get your check. So before end of next period I change to epassporte. this period ends on 10-15. I have been waiting no payement, no word, sent the support form on guerilla traffic site 4 times. NO WORD!! I'm getting pretty pissed. SO I write another support form and litterally beg saying "please please please tell me whats going on with my money i need the 300 for mortgage, and i wont put more traffic through until i find out whats going on" So right after I send that support message. They send me a letter back saying, my accoutn is fraudulent and its been deleted. WTF ok, i sell through IM, i dont make many sales...i lead the guy through the site to get to a girl, I follow all TOS. But its pretty fishy that I could sign into my account just fine, as soon as I ask, where is my payment they delete me. WTF I guess its too much trouble for them to try and fix their trouble, either that or the people who dont make much money for them they decide they dont want to pay them and delete their account when the person demands to get paid. Seriously though, I dont sell much, I do what I'm suppose to. This is so messed up cuz I needed the 300 I have been waiting for for so long for my mortgage. so in conclusion, CASH COW AND GUERILLA TRAFFIC is BAD and couldnt care less about the little people. I feel so duked right now you guys. I know guerilla traffic has been out a while, wtf, this is so wrong they do this to me.

Also I wanted to add, they said they closed it cuz the payment company says I am fradulent. This is BS because if that was the case they would of closed/deleted my account as soon as they found out which would of been when I was suppose to be paid, which was a week after 10-15. Funny how I logged in just fine this morning to write customer support a letter asking whats going on, and now all of a sudden my account is fradulent and closed. THIS IS SOOO FISHY! If this was the truth it would have already been closed. Also, epassporte is suppose to get paid a couple days after the end of the period, but if u have a check a week after. so my account would have been way closed a while ago and I wouldnt have been able to make sales again since end of last period. Ok, vented, done now. GUERILLA TRAFFIC AND CASHCOWCHACHING SHIT LIST!!

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sorry, i was pissed while i was writing it... so wasn't thinking about correct sentence structure or paragraphs...

I am so sorry to hear of the bad experience that you encountered with GT (Guerilla Traffic) and Cash Cow. I myself have been working for a chatting company since April of this year who also uses GT and I have now opened my own chatting company myself.

I WILL NOT MENTION ANY COMPANY NAMES AS I WANT THIS MESSAGE TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY AND I DO NOT WANT TO SEEM LIKE A SPAMMER OR THAT IM TRYING TO RECRUIT PEOPLE FOR OUR CHATTING COMPANIES.

I think you should call GT directly and speak to one of the sales reps and tell them what is going on. Elliot and Adam will work with you and try to figure out what is happening. What I think happened is that when you got your own GT account you signed up as a webmaster (meaning you have your own domain and promote the links that way using a website to generate traffic). Webmasters per the GT guidelines are not supposed to be chatting or using messenger to get sales unless they know about it. I take it that no one told you that, and you possibly didn't read the terms and conditions for becoming your own webmaster. I dont blame you its alot to read.

There are a ton of sites available on GT that as a webmaster you can use, but as a chatter you are limited to the CAM site because you want them to come to the show and GT doesnt want to deceive the guys into thinking that you will eventually meet them unless you really will. Some chatting companies use this meeting tactics because you can get the sale much faster but of course this is called Bait and Switch.

When chatting and selling the GT cam site you must have it on a separate website and thats the link that you give to the guy on yahoo messenger, you should never give them the GT link on the yahoo messenger. So if you were giving them the link directly on yahoo to GT this could be a reason why they say ur account is fradulent. This goes back to the webmaster thing. Webmasters should not be chatters. If you want to chat again my advice is to call GT directly.

Chatting companies pay you the $20 and not the $30 since they have to procide you with training they get the $10 off the $30. Hope that made sense.
You have to make payout which is $100. This means that the payperiod is 15 days from the 1st to the 15th and the 16th to the end of the month. If you only made lets say $80 on day 15 those $80 carry over to the next payperiod. Also, just because the payperiod ends on the 15th does not mean ur paycheck is printed the next they. They process checks on the 7th and the 22nd of the month so long as it doesnt fall on the weekend or a holiday. If you have e-passporte these are the days you will see ur money hit throughtout the day not at any given time. If you get ur paper check you will get it a couple of days after the 7th or the 22nd.

Please keep in mind not all chatting companies work the same way. And incidents like this is what kills it for the rest of us, who are working the right way, putting our links where they should be, and not deceiving the guys into thinking that we will meet them. All they get with us is the CAM show and nothing else.

I hope that this reply is helpful and that whoever reads this knows that not all companies are the same and that if you are unhappy with the way you have been treated at Cash Cow that there are other companies that you can work for who will get you trained properly and get you on the road to making money.

Another thing I would like to point out is that YES.. U HAVE to WORK to be succesfull.. Nothing comes easy. And as a victim of a scam myself I am glad to say that after 5-6 years of searching for legit work at home I finally found something that I like and which obviously does not make you rich over night, but it pays the bills.

Like all affiliates Guerilla Traffic has rules. Read their TOS something that some people do not do. Also being that Guerilla Traffic is based in Canada you have to look at many factors that causes mail to be delayed. You are not going to get a check from anyone from Canada over night. Not sure how you promote your links (putting them on a blog or vflyer or even a webpage (such as freewebs or geocities or buy a domain) or how you were trained or what you say to these guys for even Guerilla Traffic to consider your account fraudulent. There are a lot of unanswered questions. Did the owner train you? Are you telling these guys they can cancel after they sign up? If so that is fraud.

Yeah I was with them for a little bit as well. I couldn't stand it either. So I made the 5 sales as quick as I could for my $100 payout and got the fuck outta there. Needless the say the information I learned was worth the time alone, as a newbie at the time I had no idea what to do. This allowed me to take what I learned, go off on my own and make more than $20 per sale...

oh btw, the lady was a bitch to

Ok, well its not selling through IM, i asked permission before moving away from cash cow. Also I tried contacting adam. No luck. I know they dont all work the same way.
I have read tos and I followed every single thing verbatim, like I already said.
Facts are this...
My checks were sent out much later then they said they would be, I can look at the date on them that is FACT, its not about mail its about when it was printed out.
Also I know about Melissa from CASH COW, anyone who signs up with them, they will see what I mean. Do you all want to be forced to put your real name on a board so people can google you and see you being a ewhore??? Among other things
Also another fact remains, they said my account came back as frauyd from the payment processing, thats BS because if that was true my account would have been deleted when it was processed, 2 weeks ago!!! It was deleted as soon as I demanded my money.
So funny, customer support ignores you, until you demand money, then they send a response back 30 min later deleting your account. Heh

Again, you sell big, so I am sure you get different treatment. They don't want to be bothered with the little people. Besides webcams is so much better on many levels, I am happy to get away from GT.

1 more note, Elliot is cool, I don't know why he is with GT...he is better than them.

haha cucr You are talking about melissa from cashcowchaching, yeah she totally is. this should be her ad
If you want to be forced to type your full real name in a forum admitting youre an ewhore, work for cashcow!
If you want to be forced to work every single day (as if you don't have a life), work for cashcow! (she will purge you if you dont)
If you want to be belittled and told "your a noob you only can use 1 aff link" work for cashcow!
If you want to get less money than you normally would, work for cash cow!
If you want to get plaguerized information she stole from the LEC forum and other places, work for cashcow!

BTW, she was purged from LEC, which is pretty hard to do. she has multiple names on there and you can see in the forum when she first started all the questions she was asking.....i wouldn't trust she knows what she is doing.

ok this is homemomma's only post, joined 2 days after i posted this... i know melissa constantly googles and searches for things about cashcow, how much you wanna bet thats her? heh
reads like her, same age as her, i bet it is her. hiya melissa hows the powertripping going? ok im done
=^..^=

No this is not Melissa. But I also worked with her. Not directly with her but I did get training from her. And she would not be as nice as me to try to figure out what happened with your account.

I felt I should post some of the things that I learned to try to help you but although I was not succesful its not my fault. It could have been Melissa's fault. Maybe she reported you or something since she is revengeful.

I could totaly understand how you feel about posting your real name on the forum but this is done because we need to make sure you are who you say you are. Think about it. If you have you're own company wouldn't you want the real information of the people working for you. Plus access to the forums is granted and well all the people I work for are proud to show off who they are and are proud of the work they do. Work is work u know.. no line of work is degrading so long as you're trying to make it in life. Im not ashamed of who I am and I will gladly show you who I am.. so send me a private message cause like I told you I dont like to spam. And I have also joined LEC and they require your social security number as well as other affiliates I have joined. The good thing about GT is that they dont require that and you can work from any country.

Webcams is good.. and I know of other affiliates who are way better than GT. Be careful with webcams though because they dont pay out fully if they discover that you chatted to get the sale. I made two sales so I was supposed to get $50 and they only sent me $38 and they said it was because of processing fees and becuase I broke the terms of service by chatting.

Also, the company I have worked with, one of her goals have been to get you to work on your own and eventually open your own company which is where Im at now. I have started my own company thanks to the help of someone really nice that Melissa also treated like crap.

Hey we all have bad experiences.. I know I have had them.. all I wanted to do was try to help you..
Sorry that it didn't work out with GT for you.. Im a little guy too, just getting started.. working with Elliot like you say, who is really nice and very understanding.. (by the way-Elliot told me they are moving offices to a bigger one and that its hard to get a hold of anyone-keep trying)

I cant believe u compared me to her and that I even sound like her.. LOL.. oh well

I make plenty of money with LEC and webcams, so I am not that worried about GT. I did get really pissed at first because I do follow all the rules and always ask and double check with aff programs before doing anything. I always let them know what I'm doing and give them my webpage. I let them know of updates and new ones to.
Don't try to say that the reason she forces you to post your real name in the forum is because she needs to know your who you say you are. You and I know thats total bs cuz she gets a copy of our ID and all of our info, so she ALREADY knows who we are...
She just wants to powertrip, posting our real names in forums is telling the whole world what we do.

I asked GT before i quit with her to sign with them and I told them, so no thats not it, like I said, I double check everything.

You contradicted yourself in your post, you just started? You said you had been working since April.. :/ oh yeah and opened your own company too. Wow. Pick one, can't be all three.

You either just started.
You have been working since April.
Or you have been working a while and then opened your own company. (which is just you have a bunch of people signed up with ur aff webmasters referral im sure and taking a cut from them like melissa)

I still think youre Melissa. It's odd how your only posts are this thread and you became a member after this post was made.

If you read the TOS for webcams, then you would know you can't sell through chat without letting them know first. You see, I always read the TOS completely and double check with AFF groups completely before I do ANYTHING.

Which is why if an AFF program screws me, then something is shady.

I would like to repeat that you said Melissa (or yourself heh) is revengeful. Yet another reason not to join cashcowchaching or GT.

If you aren't Melissa (I doubt it) then I guess her wrath of revengefulness will be coming down on you for saying that, huh?

1 more thing, I am sure she helped you oh so much and her forum did too, but she cut and pasted and stole most things from the LEC forum and this one too. Do a little searching and you will see that.

If you started out with Melissa and didn't know of this BHW before hand, I can see how you will want to protect her and GT, but I didn't so I know of everything she has stolen to make her cashcowchaching site. This is why she is so careful to let people into her program and her groups, she doesn't want to be called out. Others have infiltrated her before, and she even admits that in some of her blogs.

Look bottom line is to each your own. I put GT and CashCowChaChing on the shit list because in my eyes for the previously mentioned reasons, they are SHIT.

But hey, if someone who reads this is the type of person who likes to be molded and bossed around, then f*cked, I suggest sign up for cashcowchaching and Guerilla Traffic, you will go far! Ofcourse, there won't be much left of yourself or your pride afterwords

Oh yeah and "chatting companies" having to charge you 10 for the training they give you. Spare me, I'm not naive to this biz. Again all info in forums Melissa has stolen from LEC or this site and other places. And there are many boards thats are FREE to get the "training" not to mention the aff network you sign for gives you training. No no they dont HAVE to, and you can sign directly with website. EVERYONE don't let the "chatting companies" fool you and tell you otherwise so they can snag 10 dollars off your cut instead of the % the website will pay them thats not out of your cut if you just signed up as an AFF REFERRAL underneath them. DONT BE FOOLED

Oh yeah and if anyone needs any info on how I make my money, I will be happy to share what I know for free. I always do, members on here know that and know I go above and beyound to help in anyway I can. I have stayed up hours, helping people make websites, driving around helping people get phone verified accounts, and much much more. Because I like to help and if someone helped me, I wouldn't want to charge them so thats why I don't charge or take a cut. Im not near as savvy with things as some people are, but in ewhoring im pretty good. Just PM me if anyone needs any help. I am not going to get you to sign up for my "company" or take any cut from you, or charge you for an ebook.

I am by no means trying to protect Melissa. I really dont like the way she works. Again.. I was just trying to help you cause I myself am always looking for ways to make money from home and thats how I came across this post.

Yes to clarify I started with a chatting company back in April of 2008, not Cash Cow, through this company I met Melissa and joined in on her conferences. After being with with this company I noticed that there was one spanish tour on GT and thought that maybe I can do something bilingual. With the training that I got from the chatting company I was working with I was able to open my own chatting company recently. I still continue to work with the chatting company as Im not 100% ready to go at it alone.

I am in no way trying to convince you that GT or Melissa are good companies. I just thought that by posting some of the TOS and telling you to call them directly I would help you figure out what happened.

It kindda sux that you would address yourself to me the way you do but I understand that you think that Im someone that Im not.

I was just trying to help...

ohh... I didn't know of companies charging you... Does melissa charge??? I really would like to know.. and I really would like to know how else you make money online. Having 2 kids at home and one on the way Im always looking for ways to make money. I have found customer service companies and I even had a wordpress blog that got deleted cause I had affiliate links on it so I made a forum. The only trouble with customer service companies is that my lil one doesnt stay quiet long enough for me to get some work done.

I didn't mean charge literally, I meant taking 10 dollars cut as you and/or melissa's chat "company" does.

I am happy to help people, as a lot of members on here will tell you, but I am boycotting Guerilla Traffic. So you're company that is a master account with GT gets no help from me, sorry....

Why would I help them make money after they stole from me?

Why would you need help when you have your own chatting company?

Anyone not working with GT or Melissa I will be happy to help you with anything to do with ewhoring or building websites. But again, I am not going to help either of them make more money after they stole from me.

OK.. I understand... I wasnt thinking of making money with GT.. I was thinking of other affiliates that I joined that Im not working..

Yeah.. I got my chatting company but its not easy to kick off the ground.. posting ads to hire people and finding good people that are willing to put the work is not easy...

Ohh I understand what you mean about the cut with the chatting company but doesnt LEC do the same thing.. They make money off your sales too.. Its just like MLM marketing.. The person that trained you has to get something out of it you know.. Its only fair. Just like if you refer people to LEC, you get a cut off their sales too.. So we're both doing the same exact thing.

Well thanks for being honest. Like I told you I have found numerous companies aside from chatting and I like you like to help people out to make sure they dont get screwed over. Cause it happened to me that I almost lost $7800 through a Western Union Scam, but the bank and all the authorities helped me out and ever since I am determined to put that info out so it wont happen to anyone else.

Also, I know that this kind of chatting is not for everyone.. so any good leads that I can place on my forum for other people to find is what Im looking for.

But thanks anyway...

Ofcourse in essence all affiliate companies "take a cut". I am saying by setting up your own company through GT and taking the "10 dollars for training" you say..... like cashcowchaching, yours, and others....
Those companies take 2 amounts. GT ofcourse is taking their cut, then you are taking the 10$ when they could of just signed up directly with GT in the first place.

Yes LEC gives everyone the same, they offer in essence free training since they don't take an extra 10 off. Many aff companies offer free training, so to everyone who reads this, I would sign up DIRECTLY with the website instead of through another company that takes another cut.

Again, it made me sick to my stomach finding out im getting 10 dollars less because I got hired through cashcow at first... my 10 dollars per sale for training i guess. But all the training she STOLE FROM LEC FORUMS AND THIS FORUM and other forums. some things she just cut and paste, didn;'t even bother editing, and ofcourse she gave no reference where it came from, pawned it off as her own

:: puke::

Yeah still making me sick to my stomach

Well.. I trully wish you much success.. I wish that there were more people like you who have the guts to post their opinions online..

you do have really good points and well not everything last forever and thats why Its always good to have a back up plan... The one thing I can say is that the company that originally hired me showed me how to sign up directly to other affiliates because GT tends to go down alot so we do sell Webcams as well as LionDollars (awesome because its not packed with porn), and many others which we joined directly. And if any of our employees want to venture out on their own, we encourage them to and help them out as much as we can although we are no longer making money off their sales.

You're pretty cool and maybe one day you'll share your ideas with me.. If not then I guess I will continue searching for other resources.

Good luck in all that you do and it was nice chatting with you and reading your opinions.. and Im sure many Melissa haters would love to read this thread.. I recall when I would ask for help, she would say.. "Get with your co-worker" crapola if you ask me..

Have a nice night and again best of luck in all your business ventures...

They don't use sexkey anymore. They use to at first, but not anymore and they don't just use the other ___key anymore either. THINGS DO CHANGE YOU KNOW. I have asked sexkey and I am also an affiliate with them, they said they are not LE*C and don't have anything to do with them. This was asked recently by customer support when I started with them. Also sexkey doesn't do webmaster referrals, l*ec does. LE*C also has different sites now to use besides the ___key site.

Besides, LE*C doesn't tell me I have to work every single day and have traffic on my site every single day or I will get purged, like cashcow. They also don't force me to put my real name on a forum, like cash cow. Not to mention, they pay on time every time. They send out checks on monday and the date on the check is posted on monday. For cashcowchaching and for GT (same thing) they don't pay on time every time. They don't even print the checks out when they say they will.

Also nothing changing the fact Melissa STOLE verbatim postings from BHW and from LEC forums, which is totally not cool. Many members will agree with me that stealing posts from forums is totally bogus.

so BEFORE you start calling someone "nuts" maybe you should think that THINGS DO CHANGE. Again, LEC doesnt use sexkey anymore and they have other options besides the ___key site that they use. Different site, and different splash pages altogether.

Also sexkey doesn't do any escort site. They do have a feature on their site called sexsearch though.

pfft... "are you nuts" : /

Look, again, bottom line is do what you wanna do. I posted cashcowchaching and GT in the shitlist because of what they did to me, so to me they are shit.

If you think otherwise, then thats cool, but atleast know whats currently happening and no need to call someone nuts.

Yes we did. We also discussed how its good to use L*EC because of the requirements of sexkey. Also this post is on GT and cashcow.

we discussed in pm and you even agreed what GT did to me was fucked up, im not going to post pms....but you know what you told me. so I would think they are SMART not to get involved with GT's shinnanigans.
GT doesn't run themselves, they are held by the balls of their big sellers and their big sellers make the rules. People like melissa. They need to grow a new set of balls and stick by their word to their affiliates. Sh*t its pretty messed up to blantantly lie to someone to get them to get sales for you, then after they do they cut you off cuz youre not a huge seller and steal your money.

BTW by the numbers, LEC is still doing pretty much the same numbers from their big sellers (look at the board), not everyone posts in CL.

Besides, I regret even bringing up L*EC cuz this thread has turned into LE*C. I was just stating how LE*C never screwed me, comparing them to GT and cashcow.

~~~~THIS IS A THREAD ON GUERILLA TRAFFIC AND CASHCOWCHACHING~~~~

There is another thread for LE*C, here

Any who, i don't want to argue on this subject, bottom line like I always say is do what you want. But I am not lying in anything I said, so take heed. I'm not going to post again in this thread since it has veered to another subject and BHW doesn't need the arguing crap.
If anyone would like to know details on GT and cashcow I will be happy to chat in PM.