Roaar - I'll tell you a short story: I started a new job for online marketing and seo stuff for an online shop 2 years ago. In the past this was a parted project owned the half by the biggest player in the niche. His shop has an 11 years old domains, massive backlinks and is mostly in the top3 of all brand names and other related keywords. Now i pushed the new shop - which employs me - to new heights and the revenue was skyrocketing from 15,000 to 60,000 per month. The other boss, which ownes the older shop and the half of the new shop got angry and divorced from the new shop because he has a loss of customers. Of course this guy has build a lots of bigger customer database worldwide this ten years and has a big fanbase. Now he monitors every step I make and lets his staff repeat this. I start a long term link bait campaign - he repeats it. I start a facebook campaign - he repeats it and so on... Caused by his wider audience (due his bigger customer db and his more famous name) and the trust of his aged domain he gains more links from my methods, gets more fans from my campaigns and so on - This is so FRUSTRATING. I think we will be on the second place forever... Any hints or ideas?