Group Project: state of Panda/Penalty - let's stay ahead of Google

Hey Guys,

I am starting to notice huge changes in the serps in various (mostly affiliate markets).

People doing nuke, scrapebox, srummer, and other auto-linking schemes seem to be getting slapped, but I have no hard data on how many, and how much.

Some people are fine - perhaps they use these tools differently or have older sites with a stronger link profile that can handle more spam pages linking to them. But some others are getting hit.

So let's post here if you have a site that's lost some ranking and what linking you were doing and we can (however anecdotely) at least see if we can see some recurring patterns. If everyone says they got slapped and they were doing X, then we can start to make some educated guesses that X may not work anymore (or is at least risky) and we can start detecting trends, and looking further into what's going on.

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Personally I think there are too many unknown factors to be able to accurately determine anything. I appreciate the motivation to try though but I think its pretty fruitless.

For example the difference in a penalty can be as sophisticated as:

Amount of incoming links
Link Types
Rate at which links are found
Anchor text of links
Rate at which certain types of similar anchor text links are found
Onpage optimization
Domain Age
Length of onpage content
Google onpage content quality score
Amount of pages on website
Anchor text of incoming links that relates to blog title/article title/website name
Anchor texts that contain URL rather then words
Amount of links found compared to how many social shares Google sees
Rate of incoming links compared to other similar websites
Google searchers time on site compared to other sites with same search
Google searchers bounce rate compared to other sites with same search

I could go on all day. Each one of these plus about a billion more can be a factor, each having its own score and each balancing and teetering the penalty meter ever so slightly.

How about we just search for the 10 other posts identical to this.

eldran said:

Hey Guys,

I am starting to notice huge changes in the serps in various (mostly affiliate markets).

People doing nuke, scrapebox, srummer, and other auto-linking schemes seem to be getting slapped, but I have no hard data on how many, and how much.

Some people are fine - perhaps they use these tools differently or have older sites with a stronger link profile that can handle more spam pages linking to them. But some others are getting hit.

So let's post here if you have a site that's lost some ranking and what linking you were doing and we can (however anecdotely) at least see if we can see some recurring patterns. If everyone says they got slapped and they were doing X, then we can start to make some educated guesses that X may not work anymore (or is at least risky) and we can start detecting trends, and looking further into what's going on.

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eldran said:

Hey Guys,

I am starting to notice huge changes in the serps in various (mostly affiliate markets).

People doing nuke, scrapebox, srummer, and other auto-linking schemes seem to be getting slapped, but I have no hard data on how many, and how much.

Some people are fine - perhaps they use these tools differently or have older sites with a stronger link profile that can handle more spam pages linking to them. But some others are getting hit.

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The only sites that are immune from unnatural link penalties are those that are not related to keywords that are often abused, and sites that have extremely strong content. If you look in Google webmaster forums, the only sites that ever post questions about why they got link penalties are sites with shady themes and ones that are obviously thin content. Having an exemplary link profile doesn't immunize you from anything, only your content and theme can.