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Greengoblin Scammed me for $5,000 Dollars Cash

Discussion in 'The Shit List' started by Breadwinner1, Nov 10, 2015.

  1. Breadwinner1

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    So moderators all family of blackhatworld I have been scammed by Greengoblin and I will try to explain what happened in the course of 8 months.

    -I Sent greengoblin message about making some extra cash and I liked the methods he was trying to tell me about adwords and how to make good money.

    - April 7th 2015 at 11 am I deposited $3,000 dollars cash into greengoblin account on a a hustle he said he been working on for the last 3 years. He said he can almost double my money from ad words every two weeks. So Im thinking extra 1.5k every 2 weeks sounds great and we never met but did a eCommerce site before so he was cool.

    - Months pass and I didn't receive any payments. I started to get worried around June because greengoblin used every excuse in the book so I told him Im filling a police report, he then blocks me.


    -June I make police report and dl an text messaging app and send him that I got all his info bank etc and I went ahead and filled the police report and want to sue now.

    -He unblocks me calls me starts cussing me out saying Im rude and he was at a funeral and he will counter sue and I would be in big trouble. I just told him I don't want to sue I just want my money back. He tells me his getting some issues fixed and will pay me back so i agree.

    -Text him back in July and he says that everything is fixed He will pay me my 3k in 3 installments of 1k "IF" I send him another 2k to invest with the ad words/ hence more money the better return. So i decided his going to pay me back my 3k plus whatever i double from this 2k I'm investing every 2 weeks, Sounds too good to be true but the gullible me with no options decides to do it.

    -I told him my funds are not good now but I will send it in august so by august I sent him the 2k ironically I got a ticket at wells fargo for parking in handicap spot it was pouring rain and I wanted to be in out another sign.

    -Remember guys Im suppose to be making profit every 2 weeks like he stated, and we are in august.

    - August passes No Payments, September passes No Payment

    evidence 3.jpg evidence 2.jpg evidence 1.jpg evidence 4.jpg evidence 5.jpg evidence 6.jpg evidence 7.jpg evidence 2.jpg

    -after all of October going back and forth he FINALLY texts me saying we are getting paid. I will add that snapshot as evidence.
    - I wait couple weeks, he goes back to saying he still figuring out some issues and that I should have never invested if I needed the funds. WORD FOR WORD.

    - I'm tired I don't want anything else but the money I invested I told him to keep the rest even if you were making money off of me for those 8 months just give me back my 5k because you lied to me again and again and again. If you read this far I hope you can understand the pain and suffering this man has put me and my family he lied so much its unreal my resolution would be if he can just pay back that money if not at least show the world never to do business with greengoblin. I think I developed anxiety thru this ordeal. My wife says that Im always looking worried now.

    Thats all.
     
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  2. jazzc

    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Thread approved. Accused member has been notified and has 48 hours to respond.
     
  3. GreenGoblin

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    sending u a pm jazz, let me know if u need anything else.
     
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    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    GreenGoblin PM'd me his objection of the validity of the SL thread because "it is not a BHW issue". My response was and I will repeat it here: "It is a BHW issue insofar you are a member. This is not a court or anything but the forum is the arbiter of who gets to be a member or not. That's what we are examining in the SL section."
     
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  5. GreenGoblin

    GreenGoblin BANNED BANNED

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    I'll pm u the email correspondence from the cpa network.
     
  6. jazzc

    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    No, I will not consider any PMs. You will follow the section's procedures. Everything is posted on the thread with sensitive/personal info removed/blacked out. This is for transparency reasons both of the involved members AND the moderator.
     
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  7. GreenGoblin

    GreenGoblin BANNED BANNED

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    Well if we are following rules of bhw it clearly states

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/shit-list/499995-shitlist-rules-procedure.html
    rule 1

    however to give the OP and you some peace of mind i wanted to share the emails that im really not at liberty to share because they are confidential and not to me, but the networks involved, but again...we are discussing a venture that took place outside of bhw but instead of me trying to take the easy road i rather show u the emails so we can have this removed and not only that so the OP can know im not just giving him bs, and this is the same reason i didn't show the OP emails cause it has to do with serious fraud nothing on my end but the network itself internally...credit card fraud.
     
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  8. jazzc

    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Since you also PM'ed me the post above, I responded the same that I will type here:

    If you really think I am being at fault here, fell free to PM the administrators (DD/bz) directly or use the support link on the footer and inform them of my supposed transgression. I'll be more than happy to be proved wrong.

    Otherwise the SL stands and your decision is if you are going to meaningfully take part in it or not.
     
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  9. GreenGoblin

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    I dont think your at fault bro, your just doing what u suppose to do...im just stating the rules of BHW but again im not at liberty to post network emails here in the public its to protect the privacy of the network and the merchant that being said, i have no problem sending them to u so u can review them privately.
    But again we are in violation of BHW shit list terms by even discussing it.
     
  10. jazzc

    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Let's take it step by step. Do you contest anything the OP wrote?
     
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    yes of course, the OP doesn't have the emails i have from the network and the merchant so he thinks someone is scamming him, but again like I said before this can be cleaned up very fast if i can just send u the emails so u can see the big picture i can only say so much on a public board about credit card fraud and networks and merchants.
     
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    No we are not - we have a long history of booting scammers out of the forum even if they did it outside of it. And if we did that to a guy that scammed some $ millions, do you think $5k is going to be an issue? And if you're not a scammer, I'm sure you want the truth to shine to everyone here.

    As I said, if you believe that I am being unfair and overstepping feel free to open a SL against me, report me to the Admins and contact the forum owner.
     
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    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    What parts specifically from the OP's text are incorrect or misrepresenting?
     
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    The whole conversation is misrepresenting, why? because the OP doesn't have the emails from the network or merchant so i understand his issues
    I think we need to have another mod intervene because the conversation is going left, I merely stated this is in violation of BHW shit list terms

    Shitlist Section Rules
    All new threads in this section must be approved by a staff member before going live.
    1. Threads in this section may only pertain to business conducted through this forum. This includes the BST, WTB, HAF sections, and PM's.

    This venture had nothing to do with bhw, no BST, WTB, HAF Section or PMs


    But again rather me choosing this route i asked u to allow me to show u the emails from the merchant and network so it can be resolved
    again it's a simple email from me to you, u can read the emails and understand whats the issue.

    and a note, this has nothing to do with scamming anyone, nobody is running off with anyones money but im a pretty logical guy i can understand why he would think that.

    Jazz asked the OP how much did i deposit in his account when he did a venture with me before....he forgot to tell u that part, and yes its the same venture.

    I dont know any scammers that give u money they owe you. He just doesn't have the full story because again im not a liberty to give him them emails due to privacy
     
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    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    a)

    I will clarify and repeat my question for the third time:

    The OP wrote of a number of events in his post. Is any of those events false or not accurate? Obviously I am not asking you to agree with his conclusion (that you scammed him). What I am asking is if you contest the facts he wrote of.

    There is no shortcut going to be made here, first we will establish the facts and I will repeat this question as many times as necessary until you provide a clear response.

    b)

    If you want another staff member to take over the SL, you know what to do, I've mentioned it to you already 3 times. Feel free to go ahead.
     
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  16. GreenGoblin

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    I mention above its a misrepresentation, and its misrepresentation based on his lack of knowledge
     
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    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Is any of the events the OP wrote false? If yes, which.
     
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    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    I don't see any special protection going on. The screenshot says that you were asked for more information and that should it be true the staff member would be removed. Your issue is that it wasn't handled on a SL thread? Plus you are an old member, don't you know that staff have been demoted in the past even for much less than scamming?
     
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    All of them are false and there false based on his lack of knowledge, the same emails i can't send him due to privacy is the same ones im willing to show you.
    his reality of the situation is based on his assumption my reality of it ...is based on facts which can be proven.
     
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    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Ok, so let's test this.

    Did you originally get $3k from OP?
     
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