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Gray/Black Hat Expertise - How to Translate Into IRL Business and Marketing Success

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by tjtigers14, Feb 20, 2013.

  1. tjtigers14

    tjtigers14 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    So I got pretty damn good at gray-hat SEO in the past year. I am great at manufacturing a site to look like it's ultra-popular and then using bunk reviews to sell products. But now that I'm looking to expand outside of affiliate marketing into things like blogging, local SEO and building social influence on LinkedIn and others, I'm realizing that I basically became an expert at being a goddamn digital conman of sorts.

    There's always talk about capitalizing on your expertise and becoming a trusted resource on everything related to it, but I'm noticing that my skill-set is very hard to translate into real life uses outside of affiliate marketing. I can't really do a white-hat style blog about deceptive SEO, I would feel terrible if I did gray-hat SEO for an offline client only to get them penalized in a future update, and I'm having trouble fitting in with web marketers on LinkedIn because it seems like they're all white as a nun's soul and really good at content marketing strategies and networking.

    So I'm just wondering if anybody can think of ways to translate gray-hat profit and success into real world skills that would work for some of the things I want to get into. Some ideas so far are start a blog where I propose an "automated white-hat" (I know oxymoron) method for building a blog net that can survive multiple future updates. Other ideas are....like the journal of how I'm a gray-hat looking to make the holy leap to link building bliss or some shit. I think white-hatters would honestly eat that up lol. A lot of people here would think this white-hat fever is stupid but I think blogging, providing expert services, local SEO, and networking with big industry names are all activities that will provide more long-term success and stability than the deceptive and volatile (though profitable) nature of what I do now. I think just checking out the Yandex algorithm and the future of search made me realize that manufactured links will cease to exist when machine reading and advanced social metrics begin to really take off.

    Any thoughts? Thanks guys
     
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    Sorry gotta bump this as I believe it raises some good dilemnas :p
     
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    I don't have much advice to give you however i can really relate to this because i feel a bit bad that with my projects i don't provide a real value to the users. What i do is i treat blackhat stuff as a way to raise money so that i could invest in white hat long term ventures both online and offline. I mean when i read information on the internet i prefer to read something that is written by experts or people with genuine interest in the topic. So for me that would mean actually hiring people who can write awesome content for my websites.

    Sometimes i feel bad that i spend all this time with blackhat just trying to manipulate stuff to generate profit without providing any real value when i could be trying to build a real product, getting better at programming. While i don't know what you really want to do in life I'd suggest that you read books about, business, marketing, startups, investing. At least that's what i do.
     
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