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Government should tax big corporation and rich

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by bhstudent, Jan 28, 2012.

  1. bhstudent

    bhstudent Junior Member

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    Here is a very interesting and controversial topic for all to lounge on...

    Most of you guys/media will say government should watch and the open market will take care of itself, big lie! Corporations are people, people are selfish and greedy. Because corporations are greedy they will always employ the cheapest labor and under pay employees.

    Case is point, the big Apple make $13 billion in pure profit in the last quarter.

    $13,000,000,000. Count that zeros, now call your bank ask them how much is in your acc.

    Yesterday I watched a clip on cnet where Molly and others were discussing the working conditions of UNDER-PAID Chinese that put together the iPhone and Mac that you all crave. Think about it, Apple can move some of the technician/assembly jobs to the US, hire some unemployed Americans, pay them minimum wage (why not a little over minimum) and still make a $7 billion profit (may be more or less, but still profitable). But yet, they move the job oversea, cut more cost and continue to make tons of profit, am sure they will still be whining about government policies and tax...

    Let government tax them more, part reason why the US economy is messed up is because these big corporations continue to ship american jobs oversea, they dont want to paid minimum way, and they still want government protection and favorable policies.

    Apple is $13 billion richer at the expense of thousands of unemployed americans and thousands of under-paid Chinese working in poor condition. Am sure the same applies to HP and other tech companies.

    Greed shall kill us all.
     
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  2. WebmasterDeluxe

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    If you are not greedy and don't want to make money, why the hell are you on a blackhat forum?

    I think it's time you leave and go to you on your liberal hippie boards, or start paypaling all your money to us, you know redistribute your wealth
     
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  3. iiaok

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    What is with this growing epidemic of taxation stupidity?

    When you increase taxes to big business, is it big business who suffers? NO! It's the consumer, bottom line.
     
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    Greed isn't necessary to make money. But ain't it bit fucked up normal good income earning people pay 30% tax and millionaires can get off with paying 15% Most influential men got influential friends. That how the shit works :eek:
     
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    Free Trade Creates Competition = > Competition Drives down prices.

    If big corporations are taxed more You will end up paying for it in one way or another. Not them.

    More taxes means the cost of living goes up.
     
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  6. Getwhatchuwant

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    I Dunno about all that but here is something being considered that I am all for: http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/234906/4/Blackout-bill-for-NFL-gets-favorable-reception-at-Capitol

    There is much ado about the government giving handouts to the people and yes I agree, but it's high time we did the same with big business! Read the article. It's a damn shame that the public has to fund Billion dollar stadiums and arenas for Billionaires and then when the arena does not get filled the local community cannot watch the game on TV, which in turns also hurts the local advertisers.
     
  7. bhstudent

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    greedy is natural.

    @iiaok so lets not tax big business so consumer wouldnt suffer?
     
  8. iiaok

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    You suggest punishing them because they buy labor from the low opportunity-cost provider?

    And yes, let's not tax big business more than we already do, because more taxes isn't the solution to the economy. How can anyone think that it is?!?!

    Seriously, how are increased taxes the solution?
     
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  9. macdonjo3

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    Yeah, then you scare the corporations away and they'll conduct business in another country.

    You sound like someone who should be in government, just someone trying to screw something up.
     
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  10. Getwhatchuwant

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    Yeah all this manipulating taxes just bites us in the ass, the middle class gets hammered from behind and the rich just find ways around it anyway.

    The best way IMO is a "fair tax" that taxes you on purchases not income. This way everyone pays, even those in professions that are not getting taxed right now such as illegal activity (drugs, prostitutes) and those that work under the table. You tax on purchases everyone contributes.
     
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    I find it funny when the top 1 percent of income earners paid 38 percent of all federal income taxes in 2008, while the bottom 50 percent paid only 3 percent. Forty-nine percent of U.S. households paid no federal income tax at all...yet the top 1% is still not paying their fair share...Oh really????!! o_0

    Without the federal reserve and fiat currency no income tax would exist anyways..study history and monetary policy people and stop bleeting like sheep the propaganda of politicians...there is only one politician running for president right now who wants to end the federal reserve, return us to a gold standard in our monetary policy and get rid of income tax alltogether...No income tax doesn't pay for roads or schools, or anything else...Income tax was created, The Federal Reserve was created and the Gold Standard was abolished ALL within an 18 month window of time.

    Income tax WAS CREATED to pay the interest on the loans the federal reserve makes to the US treasury (in the form of Federal Reserve Notes) in which the US treasury gives the FED US Bonds and a promise of interest...If there is only 1 million dollars of currency in existance how can the FED loan that 1 Million dollars to the Treasury AND THE TREASURY pay interest on it? They can't....so the income tax and fractional reserve banking was created!

    EDUCATE EDUCATE EDUCATE YOURSELF PEOPLE!
     
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  12. Georgebg

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    Capitalism > Communism

    What you are promoting is pure communism, jobs and equality for everybody.

    I guess you need some history lessons, just read online about the economic situation in Russia and other Eastern European countries in the period 1950-1990, and think again :)
     
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    Why don't you just work hard and stop complaining? Face it, you failed with Adsense or something, so now you want to change something with the taxes so you can make a few dollars. Hard work and good ideas continue to prove them self over and over. Maybe you should actually put some hard work into something and stop trying to steal other people's hard earned dollars because you're too lazy to do it yourself.
     
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  14. Schoening

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    I live in Denmark, so i get quite a bit of Taxes.
    About 60% of the Riches Income.


    I don't think we need high Taxes on Corporations, because: Read the Thread, But i agree on Taxing rich people over there some more:)

    The Corporation is not suffering, and the xx. Billion can be used for HealthCare etc.

    But tbh. Usa Government is so fucking corrupt.. i think taxing you guys would allmost be stupid, unless youre a supporter of pointless wars:rolleyes:
     
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    What he's promoting isn't communism *sigh*.

    He's saying to help the temporary economic situation, larger companies should give people in America jobs, so they spend more money in local businesses, pay taxes and don't rely on state welfare etc.

    Not only would it reduce the deficit, unemployment, crime rates and everything else, it would benefit the rest of the world too.

    All companies in recession hit countries should take temporary measures like this to get money back into the economy to help kick start growth and stabilise the global economic platform.

    Communism is flawed. This temporary measure (which wouldn't provide equal jobs or wages etc, just more in a given country), is not. They can go back to being money grabbing bastards in 3-5 years.

    Imagine an extra 100,000 jobs for 5 years. That would do a lot more than any of use could realise, and the chances are the large companies wouldn't lose out from it either.
     
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  16. Getwhatchuwant

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    Excelelent point you bring up there but keep in mind the top 1% while paying 38% of taxes control over 40% of the wealth....

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    http://www.mybudget360.com/top-1-percent-control-42-percent-of-financial-wealth-in-the-us-how-average-americans-are-lured-into-debt-servitude-by-promises-of-mega-wealth/
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    Its lack of financial literacy which is causing the majority of people from keeping much money.
     
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    [​IMG]

    You don't think Apple could move their corporate headquarters to Ireland or Denmark?
     
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    There European headquarters is located there,as well as Facebook,and Google's.
     
  20. ADHD-Dude

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    Government is people, people are selfish and greedy.

    There is no difference between Government and Corporation both rule over people