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Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by alderous, Sep 6, 2007.

  1. alderous

    alderous Regular Member Premium Member

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    man.... got banned from millnic... lost 4g'z.. they said too many complaints or something? i was doing incentivized... bleh.

    does anyone know how not to get caught for black hatting? i cant be losing money like this : (
     
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  2. brittany46

    brittany46 Junior Member

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    I never really considered schemes to cheat CPA networks as 'blackhat'. Blackhat is blackhat seo. Manipulating search engine results in your favor via any means necessary. Besides that though, why didn't you spread your traffic around to different networks? Stay under the radar!
     
  3. alderous

    alderous Regular Member Premium Member

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    what would you concider " under the radar?" i really need as much as help as i can get so this doesnt happen again.


    uioe... the only theif around here is you.. just stfu already
     
  4. brittany46

    brittany46 Junior Member

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    I consider "under the radar" not sending tons of traffic to one offer at one network that converts at near 100% If you are "incentivizing" with something like unlocking a bitorrent or something, it looks suspicious if every visitor to your link completes the zip submit or survey or whatever. Try opening a couple of accounts at each network (relative or dba name or something) don't run 4 g's on one offer at one network and you won't attract as much attention from your account rep. Also, mix in some crap traffic that ain't gonna convert to make it look natural.
     
  5. alderous

    alderous Regular Member Premium Member

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    okay, so how much do you think like 300 a day per affiliate is okay? i was doing just like 200 though.. and another thing.. they are saying the reason for me being banned is because of too many complaints? Wut is the best way to avoid these complaints? hiding aff link / cloaking it? can anyone reccomend programs? that way my aff link is never shown right?
     
  6. alderous

    alderous Regular Member Premium Member

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    uioe. get lost. noone cares about ur stupid comments. i never sold spammers ebook to anyone. if u have anything to say on topic. say it. otherwise get the hell out
     
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    You know, the best thing I can recommend you is "don't get banned". A little joke :)
     
  8. alderous

    alderous Regular Member Premium Member

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    lol i wish i knew how not to :D any advice?
     
  9. NotMeAgain

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    brittany46 already told you how.
     
  10. alderous

    alderous Regular Member Premium Member

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    haha yeah she did. my bad. buttt the thing is, when i was banned, it said due to complaints. has anyone had this problem? is it the people giving me leads complaining? i dont see why they would? or the aff company? i just dont understand why they would complain... Lets say it is people giving me the leads complaining ... for whatever reason.. If i were to cloak my aff link, i would be alright correct? and if thats true, can anyone recommend a good aff link cloacker to me? free or paid. thankss oh and if im completely wrong, someone please tell me wut im doing wrong. i just want to learn :D sorry if i come off as stupid/ noob/ annoying.
     
  11. Success Hunter

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    if none of your leads buy, then yeah, the advertiser is gonna complain and track the affiliates - banning the ones whose leads are NOT converting to sales.

    seen it before, it's for real
     
  12. alderous

    alderous Regular Member Premium Member

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    the thing is im not "leading" towards a product. mine is a simple incentivized offer. Just simple email / zip submit.
     
  13. baumann93

    baumann93 Newbie

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    If you cloak a CPA offer link and send traffic directly to that cloaked link then how can you hide the referrer? What am I missing? :confused:
     
  14. alderous

    alderous Regular Member Premium Member

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    i dont have to worry about getting banned because my script makes new accounts + proxy support and it uploads to all the big torrent sites so i get plenty downloads.
     
  15. egood

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    i think he means to hide the referer from your affiliate. you can hide all of your affiliate info by putting it in an iframe, but i think your affiliate can still see who your referer is. does anybody know a script that can iframe and meta refresh? i think that script would be the best combo
     
  16. Black Hat Seo

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    Bottom line is the advertiser gets what the advertiser wants. Low lead conversions are normal on a lot of offers like "win a free cruise" email submits but they still want to see where all the traffic is coming from.

    If they see a sky high conversion rate or an odd referrer, they are going to assume something is fishy. brittany46 basically stated the best way to avoid trouble, bring your conversion rate down with other traffic and spread it over multiple CPA accounts.

    If your leads are using BS phone numbers or thier data is run through a verification system and nothing matches, your going to get complaints ans the network will cancel your account.
     
  17. bushwhacker

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    Not doing it in the first place is a good place to start. It's one thing to try and manipulate the search engines. It's another thing entirely to try and scam a company out of its money using bogus sign-ups, which is what I assume you're doing. That's nothing more than blatant theft, if that is what you're doing.

    Maybe you should ask Millnic. They would know better than us.

    The funniest thing is, if you folks put half as much effort into doing things the right way as you do trying pull a fast one on somebody, you'd likely make as much or more money, without the risk of losing 4g'z once they catch on to you.

    But that's me....
     
  18. nova

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    Alderous,

    I too have my custom built fully automated torrent system, ( torrent maker, submitter and traffic redirector)


    I haven't been flagged so far and I think its due to the following.

    1) Use a redirect file that hides the referer as well as the obvious network url ( which is why you got caught) and also enables you to change offers on the fly

    2) Spread out the offers across various networks,

    3) Rotate offers and use GEO ip targeting.

    I don't let my earnings from any one network exceed 50 bucks a day.. as at that level they don't investigate you..


    http://quickcashtactics.com/​
     
  19. alderous

    alderous Regular Member Premium Member

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    lol my original post is from september. i dont have any problem anymore. Thanks for the advice though
     
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    yakuzax Newbie

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    if u hide the refferer url your affiliate manager might ask you.if that the problem how will u answer that, cause until now my payment of one aff network still on hold cause of that. they ask me how do i drive traffic.