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Got a question about alternative work for a family member of mine.

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by zero-day, Apr 10, 2012.

  1. zero-day

    zero-day Regular Member

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    A family member of mine has severe COPD - a breathing problem.
    He can't do a "normal job" such as a clerk at a store because walking causes him to breath heavy to the point that he has to sit down for about 15-20 minutes to catch his breath from just walking up or down a normal flight of stairs, such as walking to the second floor of your house from the first floor.

    Now, I've tried to get him to do telephone marketing at a local company, but he can't do that, claims it's too hard on his breathing.

    I've tried to teach him CPA / IM, but he can't grasp the concept of it all. Tried to get him to do article writing, but everything he attempts to write about ends up being around politics. I've tried explaining CPA / IM to him, he goes off on a long drawn out debate / discussion about politics, and usually ends up with "here watch this and see how f***ed up this economy is".

    I've been talking to a few family members about it as well as a few friends, but everyone is pretty much drawing a blank.

    Now, he is in his early 60s, has I think it's "electrical engineering" background, the boards that are inside of a computer, such as the motherboard, he is able to design them - has the software, knowledge etc. Tried to get him to do freelancing on - freelancer and odesk, but the Indians(not being racial in any sorts) always outbid him by bidding lower. I'm pretty sure he knows C and ASM, not too sure on that. He refuses to move because like I mentioned earlier, his mind is completely wrapped around politics, you mention moving, he goes into politics and the different parties and what-not.

    The "noob" things such as Microworkers, Minuteworkers, etc. he think's their scams and refuses to do them.


    I think that ideally online work for electrical engineering would work for him.

    Other than that, anyone here have any serious ideas?
     
  2. flc735

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    i get the sense he's already decided that he isn't going to work again.
    60 year olds and the internet don't mix very well.
    can't he write about not politics?
    cpod gets $4 per click :rolleyes:
     
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  3. zero-day

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    Lol I know they don't mix very well. 60 years old + politics + internet don't mix too well, plus he drops the f bomb in every other sentence that comes out of his mouth.

    I was thinking of starting up his own blog about politics since that's all he talks about, having him create youtube videos doing what his "idols" do on TV - discuss politics, and a website about politics and monetize it with adsense or something.
     
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    It sounds like this person needs to focus on their strengths. While electrical engineering would be the logical choice, it is a very tough job market as most firms are looking to hire younger talent that is graduating from schools that teach newer methods. Retraining in this industry is also very costly and time consuming. For someone who is already having difficulty grasping new concepts, such as CPA and IM, I would avoid this.

    However, you have touched on something that is of rather high value. You have mentioned that this individual continues to revert to politics. While article marketing, article writing, or blogging skills may not be there yet, an excellent start would be to capture this "content" and get it monetized. This may require trying to get the individual to speak for hours on end about the subject of politics and record it. These recordings could then be transcribed to text using speech to text software or outsourcing. If speaking for length of time is difficult due to the breathing issue, then notes can be handwritten and transcribed to articles.

    The next step would be to create a simple political blog centered around a niche - especially one in which this person really has knowledge or opinion. Add in articles on a daily basis and begin a backlinking strategy for driving traffic. Make use of good on-page SEO for the articles and get those pages ranking. Capture targeted traffic e-mail addresses into a list by offering a FREE newsletter, eBook, report, etc. Use an e-mail auto responder to send targeted affiliate offers and further target your list by sending out survey information.

    I always recommend that people start with their strengths and focus on subjects that those people are knowledgeable about. In time, introduce new elements as a 'challenge' until those are well utilized or mastered...then rinse and repeat.

    Good luck with this and be as supportive as possible!
     
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  5. zero-day

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    I completely forgot about "Dragon" that speech to text software.
    That gave me an idea, since he has diarrhea of the mouth about politics just have him ramble on and on about it, have it do STT and just blog like that, and record it via webcam, post it to youtube etc.

    Not too sure how politics would fare out though, anyone ever touch on this subject? I've never heard of anyone monetizing politics before, other than well, politicians. Lol.
     
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    60 y/o. Isn't that the age you retire?

    I'd just do part-time gigs, like article writing if I were him.

    There are also technical writings that he can do on oDesk, i.e writing product manuals, etc.
    You said he has an electrical engineering degree so that would help.
     
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  7. zero-day

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    He said he can only retire when he's 62. The only thing that interests him is politics pretty much. Not sure what side he is though, I think I remember him mentioning Independent.
    I never thought of having him write product manuals. Thank you Clyde, and thank you to all who contributed.
     
  8. Neo240

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    Get him on Postloop. There are a few political forums where he can rage all he want and get paid for it. The rate is a bit low though.8 cents a post. So in around a hour or 2 you can get 10$ easy.

    I cant really think of anything else that might suit him except forum posting.
     
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  9. madsem

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    Sounds to me as if he either doesn't want to work again, or maybe he thinks of himself he wouldn't be able to work no matter what he does.
    Not much you can suggest imho, except try harder to get him to move his ass if you want to invest so much time in him and care enough.

    As far as online work goes... if he knows programming, try to get him some serious prgramming gigs where someone wants quality work done and doesn't care about pricing so much (yes, those people do exist)
    Otherwise, with his knowldge about electrical engineering he could make a blog and write in-depth reviews about all kinds of offers, like "generating free electricity" or stuff like that and make money from cpa offers, adsense and offer ad space on his website. You could help him rank his site to get some good initial traffic etc.

    But the biggest point is as always... The person has to have the will to do something, otherwise it will be like a dead fish in the water...

    If you care really a lot about him, make a good amount of money, and just give it to him so he has no worries, that's what I'm doing with my family members :)
     
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    Let him write about politics. As for being able to earn a living from it, look at the Grudge Report, it does it nicely.
     
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    let him do seo services buy some seo tools with VPS and proxies and offer blast just pushing clicks
    no need to be pro here , step by step he will learn the basics .
     
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  12. zero-day

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    If I can set him up with a laptop while he watches his political programs(daily) for hours on end, and let him sit there and post on the net about whatever is going on and have others fuel his fire, that would be great. Lol. Any idea if their legit or not?

    What I was thinking -
    Getting him a domain
    A webcam
    Dragon - or another STT program
    Have him sit there and talk(while recording) and upload the video to youtube, post the subtitles(I believe that's what it would be called) under it, do some basic SEO on the site for him, or hire someone to do it, setup a forum for him to discuss everything, a wordpress blog to post it out there, and just let him go with it from there, monetize it all through adsense - less hastle on my end and his end. Plus, if it was monetized via CPA or CB or any alternative, if I would say "the advertiser srcubbed your leads" or anything like that - that would fuel another political debate about the economy or something. Lol.

    @TrustedFire - that's the whole point, he doesn't want to learn anything about SEO or any of that, I tried to teach him and it just turned into a political debate.
     
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    "political debate" this is good ! , let him write articles on political issues for AC or other sites or sell it , or as you said let him set up forum and blog for political and monetize with adsense , not seo the only way to drive traffic you can try
    YT Mass download >watermark> mass upload , FB CPM target old people specially from few states in us have
    political problems/interest .... sure his forum/blog will goes viral , hire posters from microworkers to start .......
     
  14. Neo240

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    I can guarantee that they are legit as it comes and pays within 12 hours within your request. I earned my first bucks there, I even have a journal in their support forum lol.

    Just get Him dragon, Ginger for grammar check and Last pass to save the password and username of the forums.

    BTW they do pay after you get 100 points which is 5$. If you want to use my refferal, I would be glad too. :p