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Googles Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey Thing...

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by ttmschine, Mar 18, 2017.

  1. ttmschine

    ttmschine Regular Member

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    I've noticed and suspected for a while now that Google have gone back into the depths of time and re-introduced a time filter (like the one sused by Yahoo) to try and control their results and stop "rank spamming" via link building.

    Don't know if anyone else has noticed, and can add supporting evidence, but...

    I suspect that in the past if you built links you'd see movement within a few days - this lets you know your link building is working, and more specfically which link building is working.

    So you can repeat it.

    Now you can see delays of weeks, even months before any links cause movement.

    This results in :

    You build a load of links and nothing happens, so you build some more.
    Nothing happens so you build some more.
    Nothing happens so you build some more.
    etc.
    Eventually either you get caught because of the link velocity, and your site is toast, or...

    Your site eventually starts to move upwards - but because of the time delay, and the amount of work you've done - you don't know what was effective, and what wasn't, and so you can't easily replicate it.

    I have still seen new really good links cause a shift within days, and other sites not move for ages - maybe theres a sliding scale to really confuse things?

    Anyway, any other data - great, otherwise enjoyone of the best episodes of Dr Who!
     
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  2. incomescout

    incomescout Registered Member

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    First off, that episode looks freakin' awesome!

    I was just reading about this topic recently.

    It's called the "Rank Transition Patent"

    http://www.seobythesea.com/2012/08/google-rank-modifying-spammers-patent/

    http://white.net/blog/how-will-googles-transition-rank-patent-affect-seo/

    http://www.ozzu.com/google-seo/the-google-rank-transition-patent-t107663.html

    I think this is what you were talking about in your post.

    Basically, Google plays with your rankings so that you can't know for sure what's working.
     
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  3. darulez

    darulez Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    dude, I post my "3,5 weeks" thread here.
    feel free to look it up.
    I just dont update it cause the WF wiseguys still believe in ther 48 h #1 ranking system they bought from the usual 7$ WSO ...

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    Your site eventually starts to move upwards - but because of the time delay, and the amount of work you've done - you don't know what was effective, and what wasn't, and so you can't easily replicate it.
    "

    that's why I test. one thing per month. and wait, and wait and wait..
    @phpbuilt back in the day even mentioned sth like 6 months.
    some other dude here, I forgot, posted some intervall.

    for me, on average it has been 3,5 weeks.
     
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    This is exactly right and it has been discussed here at length. Someone posted a link to the name of this strategy here when I tried to recall what it was.

    This is a Google patented antispam method.

    They will also do the opposite, when your link is GOOD, they will derank your site for a few weeks on purpose. If you remove or change the link, they will then mark the link as dirty.

    What I see right now on the main SERPs is 100% trash links for very very valuable keywords. Total and complete trash links.

    It seems to me like the pros have stopped giving fucks about the immediate results. Just blast the site and eventually it'll rank after google's wobbly thing gets done.
     
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    "discussed" at lenght.
    as usual.
    but no dick used the time to setup some studies on this...
    as usual.
     
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    ^Lol, yeah because it's not necessary you imbecile. The entire point of the post was to explain why it's not that easy (because it was specifically created so SEO's CAN'T "set up studies" and figure out what works). It can be tested if you have the patience of a saint but it's clearly some type of delay to hold back values of links.

    Anyone that has been doing SEO the past year or so has noticed that even strong af links don't do jack for weeks or months at a time. But eventually things seem to stabilize and move up in the ranks.
     
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    Dude, why are you being an ass?
     
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    I totally agree with him. I would seriously recommend to all to just wait and watch and let google confirm the update as well.
     
  10. ttmschine

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    LoL - it's one of the best - you can see the entire episode here -