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Google's suggestions, can't beat top sites for long tail keywords

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by baAmy, Dec 13, 2013.

  1. baAmy

    baAmy Newbie

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    Hi all,

    So I chose to start a blog in the dating niche. Perhaps I have bitten off more than I chew...

    Anyway, I tend to go over to Google, type in something like "how to make a man..." and then let G give me some suggestions with it's instant results. I tend to then look for the most natural sounding ones. A lot of the results this gives me on the results pages tend to be old sites. Some of the blog posts ranking in the top 5 are 4-5 years old! Plus none of the titles are exact matches.

    So my idea was to write blog posts that are exact matches. I am hoping that by doing this and uploading 5 or so new articles to my blog every day each with an exact match G instant title then they'd start ranking well. So far though it's been two weeks with little results to show.

    Any ideas? I'd be grateful if anyone wants to run some tools to see where I'm going wrong. Too new to PM yet but we can work something out!

    Thanks,
    Amy
     
  2. NathanEG

    NathanEG Power Member

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    You're on the right track by targeting long-tail
    keywords, but you have to build links. Posts don't rank by themselves unless you have an authoritative website
     
  3. ProSEO Show

    ProSEO Show Regular Member

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    This, and also Long tail kw's are only good if they have people searching for them...rather than going for 'what sounds the most natural' to you, use google kw planner tool to see what is actually being searched for and if it's even worth spending time on (based on volume of searches)...
     
  4. baAmy

    baAmy Newbie

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    OK, I think I've got it. So using adwords planner I can see that quite a few of them have quite a few searches and competition is low. This is good.
    But take for example the term: blue gift boxes. I obviously get very different results if I put quotation marks around it. If I go on fiverr and get 1k backlinks to blue gift boxes, will google be happy with that, or do they need to be exact matches of some kind?
    Sorry if these questions seem kind of noobish, I have read and read threads on here for months, but the lack of progress recently made me double-check I haven't completely misinterpreted something.
    A. x
     
  5. ProSEO Show

    ProSEO Show Regular Member

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    You don't want fiverr links going to your money site...Also the competition label in the planner tool is for advertisement, not nescessarily SEO competition...
    Let me break down some of the basics...

    First do your keyword research - find something with a decent volume of searches, then go investigate the real competition. check their backlink profile if you have the tools, if not check what you can see with free tools (ie; ahrefs, majesticseo, moz explorer tool). If you feel the competition is not too steep for your skillset, then continue on >

    Next you'll write your article about the KW, optimizing on page (Many guides for on-page SEO all over the web, including here). After you have your article published, with a good amount of content (I aim for 750+ words, 1000+ on something that seems real promising) and 100% unique hand written not spun or copied, please and ty - you're going to start your first tier of links...typically web 2.0s and sites that let users generate content but have high domain authority (high domain authority = protection from blasting links as well as quicker ranking, more powerful links etc.).

    Make sure that the web 2.0 properties you're picking allow d0foll0w links or else you're not gaining much by placing links there. This is where you put your not so high quality content (some people are paranoid and even do manual content on their 1st tier). Make 1-3 articles per tier 1 property, sometimes interlinking the properties but not every one so it's not obvious. All your links bak to your money site should have variations of anchor text, similar to the KW's you want but not always exact matches to your targeted keywords.

    Now is the time to hit up fiverr or other low quality link building services. hit your t1 with those, or if you are serious about your business you might even do another tier before the spammy links. Essentially the large quantities of links is to build up juice to your outer tiers, which then become higher authority - making links from them even more potent. In combination w/ the link juice and high domain authority, these free web properties are now gold.

    Thats the jist of things, there's other factors ofc but this should get you started and get you asking some better questions to move in the right direction :p
     
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  6. KHer0

    KHer0 Senior Member

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    You need to Read.. A LOT :)

    BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, DON'T STOP WORKING WHILE READING

    Find popular names on the forum and check all their threads.. Learn the basic of SEO.. Read famous forums.. Follow journey and case studies. Find someone who succeeded in doing what you and wrote about it and read it from start to finish

    Check Kinlee, Bluematter and other successful peoples journies. But DO THIS IN YOUR SPARE TIME

    Forget to add.. Stickied threads in every section
     
  7. SPQR

    SPQR Elite Member

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    Two things. It may be your niche, or it may be your patience. The sites that are outranking yours may have an impressive authority, so Google hands them the torch of trust. Also, SEO can take weeks, if not months, to take effect. Speaking of SEO, what kind have you done? Or are you white-hatting it?