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Google's new plan to fight piracy!

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by glew, Aug 11, 2012.

  1. glew

    glew Junior Member

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    Who in the world still buy music ?? Shit gets downloaded online before it is on the store !
    But should we say bye bye to 1st page with streaming sites ?
     
  3. matei

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    It's bullshit. People in the movies industry will never understand that one of the reasons people prefer to download or watch a DVD rip/cam version is that they don't want to spend money on owning the DVD with the movie. People just want to watch it one time or maybe a couple of times.
    So, why should they pay $30 when there is a cheaper alternative? Piracy won't ever be stopped, no matter how many sites they'd close.
    However, paying some attention to their clients' needs would undoubtedly reduce the piracy rates, at least for some things in this industry. I mean, com on, I would pay $ to get access to see online a movie, but I would never buy a DVD, at least not at the prices they are sold here in Romania.
     
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    Half those DMCA take notices aren't legit and are done out of spite. This is going to lead to a take down war to eliminate the competition.
     
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    Yeah - and Google thinks I use them to search for p!rat£bay or Dtorr£nt.

    Of course I don't - I havbe them bookmarked. Have had them bookmarked for YEARS.
    As far as I'm concerned Google can deindex them altogether. People will find the URL's
    Sometime Google act as if they are the only game in town

    Want a torrent?
    Then try one of the other 10,000 plus search facilities, or just go to a "halfway" site where people just tell you the URL.
    If anything this will take torrents out of site of only the people who moan about it. Hell the (c) owners might not even realise that their stuff is being nicked because torrentz have no visibility on Google - and that's the only place the uninformed masses ever bother to search.

    So frankly.

    Who gives a fuck

    Scritty
     
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    Scritty Elite Member Premium Member

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    Yup - another bullet for the negative SEO specialists that are springing up everywhere.
    People keep telling em Google employ intelligent people

    I can only assume they lock them up.... and let a bunch of feck witted chimps make their policy decisions for them - because this is another step towards internet armageddon.
    They want a spam and hate war? They are creating both the climate and the tools for it to start.

    Scritty
     
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    The majority of the music I find is from links on Blogspot sites. I wonder if google plans on deindexing blogger :music:
     
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    I actually don't (or didn't) have an issue with RENTING blu-ray discs but would never buy a movie to own it, but unfortunately, blockbuster went out of business. I would even subscribe to netflix IF they were able to increase their quality and time frame for new releases (ya it's only 8 bux but still it sucks). Now I have no choice but to D/L movies or subscribe to an on-demand system with my cable provider but even then the quality is no better than a compressed DLed "blu ray rip"... so DL it is. I do have the option of a mail/rent/subscription service, but then you don't get what you want in a timely fashion.
     
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    So the sites which get more DMCA notices will go down in ranking , poor youtube
     
  10. MoneyisMotive

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    Google fail.

    True story
     
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    I've received a ton of bogus DMCA's so I can speak from experience. There are countless angry business owners trying to use shady tactics to take down a legal page because they don't like the content.

    This will just make it worse. Next thing you know reputation management companies will start issuing questionable DMCAs.
     
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    Google is not stupid. As Google slowly takes over organic search, with paid ads, they know the outcry will be loud. With some of Google's recent actions outside of search, it seems that they are trying to build up their "good deeds" resume. Should they land in court, and not settle out of court with a slap on the wrist like the pansy government agencies allow, Google will call upon these recent actions as an indication that they are good netizens.
     
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    Google playing God.

    You are exactly right. People that torrent don't use Google or any other search engine to search downloadable stuff. Torrenters have been doing it for a long time and know where to go and which users are safe.

    This will only target newbie torrenters and at this stage, you have to becareful what you do.

    Another thing, most of the piracy isn't even on torrent websites. You can find them on blogspot. The irony.
     
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    In an effort to abolish something you don't like you prohibit it (prohibition). You impose penalties on those that don't follow the new rules.

    A seedy underworld is created to fill the void (user demand) the prohibition created. Now the targets are harder to find and much more difficult to catch and prosecute. The underworld makes big money providing goods and services the prohibition outlawed while fulfilling the demand by users. The underworld becomes rich, powerful and loved by the masses while the prohibition is unsuccessful by anyone's measure.

    You would think after so many failures to abolish items the masses want that these intellects would learn you make allies with your enemies, give them a piece of the pie, charge the user a reasonable fee and everyone wins.

    Instead they bring in an ARMY to combat a guy with a slingshot and scream success when they take him down. The next week another guy steps up with a slingshot, and then another and another. Soon the Army is doing battle on hundreds of fronts and is unsuccessful defeating everyone. Guerrilla warfare has started. The criminals look just like all the other civilians and hard to target. The Army wins small battles almost everyday but the war continues and never ends. The Army is no match for the civilians and is soon frustrated. They spend millions and then billions fighting guys with slingshots but they're never finished. The demand remains and the fighters continue.

    Again this example is the USA in it's last few wars. Tackling guerrilla fighters in their own turf is a waste or money and resources. It has never worked and will never work. The same with Google, MPAA and RIAA, until they embrace what they believe is the enemy and come up with a reasonable solution where everyone wins there will remain the seeders and downloaders. They will win small battles but in the end they lose the war and nothing changes.

    The war on copyright infringement is like the war on drugs. No matter how much money and resources you invest the population dictates it will survive because the demand is so great.

    [rant off]
     
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    Its their website they can make their search results in whatever way they want. If you dont like it work on making another one,or changing the type of sites you run.
     
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    What makes me laugh is with regards to TV series' there pretty much asking people download the TV series' because there's loads of TV series' that come out in the USA and don't come out for a good 6 months in other countries, if they just released them all at the same time then a lot of people wouldn't be downloading them because they don't have the need too. That's just my two cents anyway.
     
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    I do sometimes :rolleyes: The reason I said that was because it would be supporting those jackasses that keep at it with this nonsense because they are too stupid to come up with a viable business model.


    You should give a fuck! Of course "We" don't use google for torrent searching, but we do use google (some of us) to generate an income by having our sites show up in the serps. I could care less about the music and movies but i do care about -

    Exactly right ryan! It can be used as another form of "negative seo". So scritty if someone ends up DMCA'ing your site into oblivion just remember..."Who gives a fuck"!
     
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    You can access torrent sites by their IP address so id recommend you learn the IP addresses to your favorite torrent site's just encase.