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Google Removed Manual Action- Still Affect Rankings?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Bonbon445, Mar 17, 2017.

  1. Bonbon445

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    Hi all,

    I have both branded domain. 1 is .com, another is country tld. com is registered in 2014 and country tld is registered in 2016.

    Country TLD using nulled themes have hidden links- resulting in "the website is banned" error which caused manual action spam ban from google. Around 6 months ago, the manual action spam is removed.

    Until now, I still not ranking for any money keywords and not even the 1st for my branded keyword.

    For branded keywords, my .com is ranked 1st (without building any links). Country TLD is ranking at pos 6. The other ranked pos. for my branded keyword is my local citations.

    For my country tld, i have been creating backlinks such as local citations, forums posts, blog comments etc. Currently, at least 100+ backlinks. However, why i am still not ranked 1st for my branded keywords and not ranking at my money kw at all?

    For other very low competitive keywords- e.g. 3 words kw, ranking in top 10 pos (even during and after manual action spam from google).

    Can I ask if the manual action ban (even though removed) cause my website or what being sandbox or what?
     
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    tld Means bro ?
     
  3. Bonbon445

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    country tld = country top level domain. My own country domain e.g. .com.mycountry
     
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    oh.Thanks my bro for answer .
     
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    I had a domain that had a manual action a couple of years ago, I cleaned it up and it was removed. Since then it has never ranked that well. I renew it every year and add content occasionally hoping it will come back strong, so far for me it has not happened.
     
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    Sounds an awful like hundreds of sites I've dealt with first-hand.

    Hmm, could google be spreading more misinformation? Surely, they wouldn't do that now would they?

    I mean, it must be in their best interest to steer Blackhat's who get caught in the right direction. I mean that would only make sense.

    Just like how Sape doesn't work anymore. And PBN's are broken. SEO is dead AFAIK.
     
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    So should i continue building links to my country TLD? e.g. paid directories, guest posts, etc?
     
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    Personal experience: First of all, it's normal that rankings don't return to old positions if links that formerly made the site rank are removed in the reinclusion process. But, even with new links, some sites (not all) seem to be "damaged goods" after an unnatural links penalty. Even with the best links they keep underperforming for keywords used in the links that triggered the penalty.

    It's like a coinflip, some sites seem to have "capped rankings" after this kind of penalty, they start recovering quickly, but then stop moving at the top of page 2, no matter how many strong links you push at them.
     
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    Yes, I believe it. I have gotten sites out of manual action penalties and then pushed their rankings/traffic beyond previous levels.

    If you're using tactics that get a manual action penalty, then there is a good chance that the algorithm will judge your site accordingly even after the manual review process is completed. You're basically left with a garbage footprint that wasn't good enough to game the system.
     
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    This discussion is very weird because i have a domain that was punished..... i changed theme and added over 200 pages and its ranking like shyt. Infact the 200+ i added i never put links and they rank. Maybe its luck
     
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    I call bullshit on that. I've had a site rank for 6+ months #1 for a term.

    It got hit so I removed all my links submitted the reconsideration request. Got "approved" built the same sort of links again that got me to number one. The site literally sat around and did nothing.

    So I said fuck it i'll try another domain. Built those same links, guess what? It's ranking #1. The old site still hasn't recovered not even 20% of the rankings it had before.

    If you have a case study of recovery I'm sure the BHW community would love to see it :)
     
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    Your old site penalty is merely one anecdotal piece of evidence. I'm also skeptical that all links, content, and optimization was the exact same for each campaign you ran.

    A manual action penalty is not going to affect a domain for its lifetime. You can Google many case studies.

    The process to recover rankings and traffic is simple, yet difficult for many people to implement for some odd reason:
    1. Successfully complete a reconsideration request
    2. Refresh and upgrade content/optimization
    3. Build more high authority links
    With new content and optimization, you'll be casting a wider net for additional keywords and traffic opportunities. As well as building a higher level of perceived expertise, authority, and trust for your targeted search queries. Continuing to build high quality/authority natural links will continue to push you link equity past your competitors and help your content perform.

    This is very simple SEO as we all know and understand it. A manual action doesn't prevent the successes of doing good SEO once it is removed.