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Google penalty - help wanted!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by domainmadness, Sep 17, 2011.

  1. domainmadness

    domainmadness Senior Member

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    Hey!

    Ive got hit by this -50/-60 penalty. At least 3 of my sites have been affected. One with #1 ranking.

    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/268/rank2l.png/

    I havent done any SEO lately to this site which was ranking first and its been in top 2 over a month. Just recently it got nr. 1 spot. Only thing Ive changed after that is that I added one sentence (nothing naughty) to main page and changed footer link that was going out from the site. Have to say this site is not that great quality/not that much content, but all content is 100% unique.

    Other site I have recently bought bookmarking here + some linkpush service.

    Im not sure if this can be just dancing, but I seriously doubt it. Do you think this is some kind of manual penalty or is this caused by algorithm change/bot finding something that it didnt like?

    Any great tips very much appriciated and if someone wants to take deeper look/offer his services Im willing to talk about a deal.

    Thanks
     
  2. aldragon

    aldragon Power Member

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    have you checked webmaster tools ?
     
  3. eatingMemory

    eatingMemory Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    It could be one of your competitor's spamming your site with low quality links just to get you off that no.1 spot. Do a backlinks check on YSE and see if there's any abnormalities.
     
  4. domainmadness

    domainmadness Senior Member

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    Yeah, nothing there.

    Just checked and theres nothing special, so dont think this is the case.

    Penalties are sitewide, so not just 1 keyword/page.
     
  5. accelerator_dd

    accelerator_dd Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Might be a lot of things, but what got my attention was that you changed your footer. That means that to some extent you have changed EACH AND EVERY page on your website. When there are some changes google always puts the website aside (dancing) to determine the position.

    If that's the case, nothing to worry about you'll be back in no time.
     
  6. domainmadness

    domainmadness Senior Member

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    Well I really hope you are right! Didnt think about it that way, cause I changed footer to not give any juice out from my site, so I thought it would not have any negative effects.

    But to be honest, dont think thats the cause of it. It might be if this would be only site that got -50, but theres these 2 other sites (same adsense/wmt/analytics) that lost their rankings.
     
  7. domainmadness

    domainmadness Senior Member

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    Still the same situation, no improvement yet.

    Any more advices?
     
  8. mastermindmark

    mastermindmark Newbie

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    I'm in the same situation at the moment, my site has been pushed down to page 4/5/6 for all keywords. I am:

    * Maintaining Link Velocity (of quality backlinks)
    * Maintaining massive variety in Anchor Text
    * Adding shit loads of unique (non spun) content to the site
    * Removing all duplicate content
    * Adding contact us / t&c's
    * Fixing all webmaster tools issues

    Site started on March 1st 2011, Penalty hit August 9th 2011.

    Still waiting to see any improvement of the situation :)

    If anyone has anything else to add please let us know here!
     
  9. mccullum

    mccullum Power Member

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    -50/-60 is just bot penalty. No big deal, really. At least when compared to the manual penalty. Just find out what the problem is, fix it and wait it out. Once the bot sees that the problem has been fixed, rankings will return.
     
  10. mastermindmark

    mastermindmark Newbie

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    Mccullum, do you have experience in getting sites out of the -50/-60 penalty?
     
  11. mamboo

    mamboo Junior Member

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    I also got -40 penalty for my six very profitable sites. I think its bot penalty and its for limited period of time, if you fix problem it will be lifted automatically but its very hard to find exactly what caused the penalty. In my case I found few things wrong, which may be helpful for you
    a. very high Link velocity
    b. Same anchor text in all backlinks (no veriation in anchor text)
    c. Majority of backlinks from same type of source, blogs and article directories.
    d. Large portion of links from few domains (many sitewide blogroll links) some site even got 12K backlinks from single site.

    Its already been about 2 weeks, I haven't found any positive improvement. I have red many stories of penalty lifter in 2 months.
     
  12. domainmadness

    domainmadness Senior Member

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    Any hints how to track down the problem?
    I have unique content, which Im planning to add a lot more now.
    Not using same anchor text and Im deeplinking also. Maybe should still do some backlinking with LSI keywords or something.
    Would bot be able to recognize if I have too much adds above the fold? Or if adds are too similar to other layout?

    My best guess is that this have happened to me because of lack of content. All 3 sites which were affected has a bit short articles and not that many pages.
     
  13. jamgunner1985

    jamgunner1985 Newbie

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    use google analytics and check report do not worry if you are really didn't done anything it will be safer
     
  14. mastermindmark

    mastermindmark Newbie

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    I'd really like to hear from someone who had a -40/-50/whatever penalty AND have been able to get their site back out of it
     
  15. domainmadness

    domainmadness Senior Member

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    Yeah, has anyone ever recovered from -50 penalty? If so, much appriciated if you could share your methods.
     
  16. SuperLinks

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    Absolutely, I had one site that had that for around 6 months or so that just bounced back in the results to an even higher position across the board for my site.

    Here's what I did:

    • Regular high quality content added
    • Decreased my page load time **often overlooked**
    • High PageRank links
    • Few linkbait items for backlink diversity
     
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  17. mastermindmark

    mastermindmark Newbie

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    Thanks SuperLinks, domainmadness and I appreciate the feedback.

    Interesting that the time frame you have is 6 months, I've heard 3-6 months if the site has off-page issues (link velocity, non variety of anchor text, etc.)

    Does anyone else have experience of getting out of this -50 penalty?
     
  18. businessbira

    businessbira Power Member

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    How were you monetizing the site? Adsense?

    I was, with Adsense. And suddenly, one evening, all of my adsense sites got kicked to the -50 area. Similar sites with similar content quality and backlink profiles were not affected.

    Food for thoughts.
     
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    VIC SEO Elite Member

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    Google just playing around with your site, it saw that there was this particular site on the number 2 spot so you better know that it was being watched very carefully, and change that you make will not go unnoticed. You can also try and undo those changes as well.
     
  20. domainmadness

    domainmadness Senior Member

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    All 3 were adsense sites and I think its somehow related to that. Still not sure what happened and how to get back. Have added unique content and now going build some new backlinks. My serps have actually gone worse day by day.