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Google penalizing all types of link building now. Watch out!

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by bonermagic, Dec 22, 2010.

  1. bonermagic

    bonermagic Registered Member

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    Take a look at this thread..
    http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Webmasters/thread?tid=4cf064ca1d0473f1&hl=en

    The guy with the plastic surgery site has been struggling to get his site out of this common -50 penalty that we see.

    He's been penalized off and on since July, crippling his business.

    Google employee JohnMu then comes into the thread citing that the reason he is penalized is because of link building, specifically forum signature links... FORUM SIGNATURE LINKS. Think about it, if they are cracking down and giving -50 for signature links, what are they gonna do to all your sites you have been xrumering? Probably a life ban...

    Be careful guys!
     
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  2. HelloInsomnia

    HelloInsomnia Jr. Executive VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    The sky is falling!

    Seriously, read that thread again - it seems his site had loads of issues..
     
  3. NoWhErE

    NoWhErE BANNED BANNED

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    time to blast the competition with shitty forum backlinks?
     
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  4. hamd01

    hamd01 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    They will never ever EVER ban sites for link building. If they did SEO would simply involve running an XRUMER blast against a competitors site.
     
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  5. Cnotey

    Cnotey Power Member

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    I have suspected this was the case for a while now. If you read between the lines, you will see that editorial links are the only ones that count now.
     
  6. iseegreen

    iseegreen Power Member

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    this is BHW after all

    things like that - duplicate content - spam links are all part of the game - they are for the short time not the long time.
     
  7. bonermagic

    bonermagic Registered Member

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    Yeah.. the wont BAN you.. but they will drop you 50 spots for every single keyword and ruin your chances of ever getting organic traffic.

    That, IMO, is equivalent to a ban.
     
  8. Daniel0cean

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    this is why i build them naturally :)
     
  9. charlie3

    charlie3 Senior Member

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    There's a lot of debate on whether Google penalizes for links and if they do why not just Xrumer your competition. Well, I could be wrong but I'm thinking if you do that to a site, that site will disappear from the listings for a while, but then come back a lot stronger. I think that Google knows there a chance that people are blasting their competitors sites so they penalize the blasted site for a bit, but then let it come back stronger then it left.

    It kind of screws both parties. It makes the competitors site disappear for who knows how long and in that time they're probably losing money, but eventually it comes back stronger so the person who blasted the site get screwed because his site gets pushed back down the rankings.

    Who knows? I could be wrong, but who really knows what Google is thinking. That's just what I've seen from experience/stories and what I've gathered from the information.
     
  10. _Biju_

    _Biju_ Junior Member

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    It's probably duplicate content ... since I ranked 1-3 in google for many long tailed KW for my main site, now I had a very big boost in rankings and started getting more traffic from short keywords. My content is all original, with some (very little) keyword stuffing and with some original linking stuff, plus some major bad *** on page SEO. An i have 65k backlins (in GWT but don't know how relevant that is now).

    My advice:

    1) take your site out for 2-3 days and in the mean time ... change hosting (IP changed)
    2) set your H1, H2, H3, Title tags, Description correctly
    3) KEEP you 2 way backlinking if you have any - drop any 3-way backlinks (they suck - THRUST ME)
    4) Propper privacy policy, dcma and stuff like that + not to mention positioning of google ads
    5) Resubmit to google

    I can't think of any other but will get back if think of some other stuff
     
  11. MDSOperandi

    MDSOperandi Regular Member

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    Personally I don't believe a word that Matt Cutts et al say; It's all smoke / mirrors and bull$hit as far as I am concerned.

    I'll tell you what works;

    Buy twenty .info domains, put some bestspinner content on each of them and then try different approaches to link building and see what results you get. e.g. Split Test everything and review everything and draw your own conclusions.

    I have cloaked sites with xrumer backlinks / SENuke / BookMarking demon / SEnuke backlinks that rank and rank damn well.

    According to Mr Cutts there is no way in hell this site would rank... but it does, in fact quite a few of them rank in positions number 1 - 5 for reasonably competitive keywords. I'm not going to bull$hit and say that I am ranking for viagra etc because I am not. I *am* ranking for competitive keywords between just under 2 million results right down to easy ones with only 20 000 results.

    In a nutshell, do your own research, Google are not as smart as they make out to be and at the end of the day, if I can get a 99cent .info *cloaked* website ranking using Xrumer / BMD and Scrapebox ahead of other nice "whitehat" sites including the actual merchant then you tell me, is Google really that clever?

    People give Mr Cutts and Google waaayyy too much credit.

    Now stop reading and start split-testing

    Cheers
    MDS
     
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  12. greenleaf4u

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    read all the thread and u see its not....
     
  13. Bestbuyfoam

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    I don't know but I got little happy with SB and I have several of my keywords penalized because they was on page one and now on page 3...

    I hope I'm in the Google dance and not for long...

    Thanks And Have A Blessed One..

    and

    Merry Christmas!
     
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    This is ridiculous, i don't believe a word of it.
     
  15. katara

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    i think so google will change the game of ranking specially everyone can do sb or xrumer

    backlinks
     
  16. terryuk

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    Last time I checked -50 penalty aint nothing to do with forum profiles
     
  17. momo14

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    last year, when i build too much links via directory submission and article directory, i got -50 penalty, then i stop building links and after 3 months i got back my 5th place. so yeah sometimes it happens, just have to becareful about it.
     
  18. Anubis1980

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    Lol..

    Dude...this website is publishing feeds.-> Duplicated content.
    wordpress with rss importer and no unique content.

    edit:

    And i think this G employe was drunk and he posted a very stupid e.g.
    The webmaster is an active forum user and this was his forum posting signatures listed at once (called there COMMENTS).
    Imagine everyone would run xrumer to post fake forum posts + load the competitor links into the signature ^^.

    Headshot! ^^
     
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  19. goads

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    If you look at all his back links its obvious he's spamming. ex. http://dev.aol.com/aol-and-63-million-openids
    He has 20 links posted in each comment or profile. (worked in 1995) He has multiple backlinks going to multiple websites which redirecting to his main site. However I agree with the comments above about banning sites cause it would allow us to eliminate competition.
    This case is probably a mixture of obvious spamming (he admitted to it on the Google support forum), his footprints are easily traceable, he has no quality backlinks, most links are from same domains so he does not have good link diversification. Acquiring links requires, quality, quantity, diversification, and velocity. I dont think Google manually banned him. His linking strategy just sucks.
     
  20. xboxps3wow

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    anyone want to be an asshole and run xrumer on my site? I won't call the cops on you! don't worry ;)
     
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