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Google is ranking the https verion of my site instead of http

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Openside, Mar 19, 2015.

  1. Openside

    Openside Power Member

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    Hi guys,

    I see google is ranking the https version of my site even though I was building links to the http version.

    Is there any particular reason for this?

    Should I now redirect the http --> https in order to give it the link juice?

    Thanks
     
  2. mainceaft

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    G preferred https if you have certificate installed you don't need to worry about . users trust secured site more then others .
    just keep in mind don't remove https from your site or G will acting weird and warring will appear to visitor as it not secured site .
    las their no different between http an https on eye of google
     
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  3. FBGuru

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    The reason why you see https ranking is because Google now gives a little boost to sites using SSL and It's a good thing!

    Google sees http:// and https:// as two different sites so if you haven't redirected the http -> https (yet), your site may get penalized by panda for having duplicate content.

    301 the http to https and enjoy the free boost in your SERPs. It doesn't matter if you build the links to http or https version when the 301 is in place but in order to gain all the link juice, you should build links to the right protocol your site uses as 301 drops a little link juice while passing it to your site.
     
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  4. Openside

    Openside Power Member

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    Thanks guys.

    Still looking into this.

    I think the http version has a few hundred links and the https version has no links but yet ranking on page 2.

    I have also noticed that only some pages are indexed as https including the homepage but most of my site is indexed as http?

    Should I just redirect from http -> https across the whole site?

    When I load the https version of the site it seems much slower..
     
  5. FBGuru

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    Enter the http version of your url in this page and check if it redirects to https. If it's not, redirect http to https across the whole site.

    It takes some time for Google to index the https version of the URLs while slowly deindexing the already indexed http version. You can see the indexing/deindexing rate if you've added your site to GWMT.

    If your site is running on WP, you can install this plugin to replace all the internal http links into https.
     
  6. Openside

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    As far as I can see Google only started indexing the https version a few days ago when before that it was indexing http only.

    There was a decent rank increase to go along with that.

    For the internal pages if I redirect from http - https will it redirect to the same page or to the homepage? I don't want to lose any link juice when redirecting.

    Any reason why the https version is slower also?

    Thanks mate
     
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    You say Google only started indexing the https version a few days ago but when exactly have you installed SSL on your site and have you notified Google about the new protocol like adding it to the GWMT?

    There are 2 reasons why you experience the rank boost. Google generally gives credit to the new sites and as you may know, we call it as the honeymoon period. Google sees http and https as 2 different sites so the https version of your site is a new site in the eyes of Google. Since Google gives a little edge for the sites using SSL, it's completely natural for your https URLs to rank well and add the existing authority your site holds to the Mix plus the honeymoon boost and the https URLs now have the increased authority.

    The 301 will basically forward all the requests made on http to the https. If someone visits http://yoursite.com, the 301 will redirect it to the https://yoursite.com and the requests made for http://yoursite.com/somepage will be redirected to https://yoursite.com/somepage so you don't lose any link juice when doing the redirect.

    https is basically a authentication from your browser to the server and it takes a little computing power on the server side to process the handshake and validate the certificate. It'll only add a few ms of latency(50-300ms) when compared to the http request but if it takes very long, then either your site is hosted on a weak/shared server or your page is loading content from several external sites. The examples of content making external requests are google fonts, embedded youtube player, facebook plugin, Google Ads, Google Analytics,etc.., Requests to all these external sites will increase the page load time as all of their https requests needs to authenticated.
     
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  8. Openside

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    The ssl cert has been there for 3 months (which is how old the site is) so it is strange!

    I am still a bit nevous about 301ing http -> https but I guess if I don't then all that link juice is being wasted.

    I am on shared hosting so maybe that could slow the site down.

    I was going to use this guide to do the 301 in apache http://support.hostgator.com/articl...ache-htaccess/apache-mod_rewrite-and-examples. Does this look ok..scroll down to [h=4]Force HTTPS Access[/h]
    I am a nervous wreck now haha.
     
  9. FBGuru

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    I don't understand why you installed SSL if you don't want to use the https and if you want to use the https, you should properly 301 the http to https.

    Having https is like getting a green card for one amongst the 200+ Google ranking factors. Https is good for your rankings and good for your visitors too.

    Check this read to see how you can optimize your site to increase the page load speed while running on SSL.

    If you've trouble setting up the redirect, PM me your URL. I will see what I can do to speed up your site and increase your SERPs.
     
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  10. Openside

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    Thaanks for your help FBGURU.

    I originally just had the ssl for the checkout pages which is what I usually do.

    I will take a look at that read now and then see how I get on with the redirect.

    Thanks