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Google Has Ticked Off Investors And Now They Face The Wrath Of Wall Street!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Crewchief007, Jan 23, 2012.

  1. Crewchief007

    Crewchief007 Power Member

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    Is g00gal’s arrogance finally catching up with them? As big as g00gal is, they can afford to piss off online marketers. But they cannot afford to piss off investors and stock analysts, which is exactly what they did.

    All of the latest algorithm changes and g00gal tweaks have finally reared their ugly head and bit Google in the azz! In a no holds barred effort to increase their bottom line and dominate and control the entire World Wide Web, Google has caused a lot of online marketers to experience a drop in their income. All in the name of giving searchers a, “Better experience.”

    In many cases those drops in income were brutally significant.

    Now as they say, “The hen has come home to roost.” Wall St. has devalued Google’s stock and if you know anything about stocks and investments, this is like, [excuse the poor analogy] a pimp slap. This quote comes from MarketWatch Pulse

    Take note at how a myriad of stock analysts now view g00gal. This report comes from Fox Business.

    Clearly the 2011 algorithm changes caused g00gal’s income to drop; to say otherwise is insanity.

    To sum things up, g00gal set out to increase their AdWords income but in turn cannibalized a great portion of their Adsense income. They set about to increase their mobile ad revenue but in turn cannibalized their AdWords revenue. For a illustration, take a look at this PIC initially posted by BHW member BreakAllTheClocks in this thread.

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    Notice how g00gal has essentially wiped out the organic search results by placing their ads ABOVE THE FOLD? Clearly g00gal has devalued organic SERPs as being less valuable than any of their paid ads. That much is crystal clear.

    Now that they have angered stock analysts and investors, the big question is, “Can g00gal change the course of this ship before the 1st quarter reporting of 2012 wraps up?” The answer is, “NO!” Their arrogance is so deeply embedded that g00gal WILL NOT change course until their stock takes a major plunge. I’ve got news for you; g00gal WILL NOT meet their income projections for this 1st qtr in 2012 and once they hit two drops in a row, Wall St. can be brutal. That's why I say, g00gal is going to face the wrath of Wall St. unless they change.

    What does this mean for online marketers? It means that g00gal will be forced to make changes in order to appease Wall St. and investors. What type of changes? That remains to be seen but they will have to be contra wise to g00gal’s current algorithm changes.
     
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  2. talkmeow

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    Great write up, the only thing that google was ever good at is it's search engine and adwords. They have fuked up every other attempt to make anything successful (buzz, plus, etc, etc, etc). Funny that they also manage to screw up the one thing that brings in most of their income when they could have just left things alone.
     
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  3. NeoPat

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    Brilliant write up mate, i actually enjoyed and read all of it.
     
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  4. Getwhatchuwant

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    Plain and simple. Google needs adsense sites in the search results.
    I understand users don't necessarily like to see them, but Google needs them.
    Their expedition to show the users the actual merchant site in organic results will kill the adsense model.
    If merchant sites are dominating the organic results, what is their incentive to advertise with Adwords?
     
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    careful what you wish for. internet economy goes down, so will your business. work with it not against it.
     
  7. Crewchief007

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    You have to remember, g00gal started making money with Adsense and Adsense has been the cornerstone of their success. The issue here is that g00gal has developed an arrogance that is on the ninth degree. When a company arbitrarily bashes/bans/penalizes the people that made them successful, something is amiss. To be clear, g00gal needs Adsense but in their arrogance, they have devalued it.

    HatIsBlacked, I don't know how long you have been in this business or how many people you know in the business who are successful. If you've been in it for a while and know a lot of successful Internet Marketers, then you know that g00gal DOES NOT believe in fair enterprise.

    g00gal operates the way any dictatorial monarchy operates; they issue all of the edicts and answer to no one. If it takes a major stock drop to get their attention, my position is, let whip! They need to whipped back into reality.
     
  8. Gold Mike

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    I for one would expect them to retreat to a shade more like their former models. In their effort to make a more user friendly experience, they have basically strangled the "made for adsense" sites that were bringing them (and us) so much extra revenue.

    Unless they are so arrogant as you say, and can't see the truth. In which case you are right and Wall Street will punish them, and we should all be shorting GOOG.
     
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    I don't know if my post wasn't clear, but this is the exact point I was making.
    The fact that they rely so heavily on providing a good "user experience" (whatever the fuck that means), they have essentially killed a main source of revenue.
     
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  10. Crewchief007

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    Gold Mike, just think of AT&T and their arrogance before they got slapped with deregulation. Prior to that point, AT&T offered poor customer service and treated vendors like crap. They raised prices at will and answered to no one. It was their arrogance that brought about their downfall. It looks like g00gal may end up paying the price for their AT&T like arrogance.

    OK, Themidiman, I misread you a little bit, but now I gotcha! And I concur with you about g00gal's language, "providing a good user experience." I translate that statement to mean, "We [g00gal] will do what the hell we please!"

    Their income drop has sent a clear message to stock analysts and investors and like I said in my original post, if they don't meet and beat the projections for this 1st qtr, expect some g00gal fallout.
     
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  11. Malofie

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    I was happy to see my two teenage daughters have switched to Yahoo and Bing. They know what I do, but don't really care, lol.

    I like to watch how they surf, find things..which I have to do without making it obvious, otherwise I'm just weird, haha.

    So when I asked them why they switched, they both said Google sucks, it never gives them what they're looking for.
     
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    Really? If that's the case with the younger generation then maybe the big G is starting to go downhill...
     
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    Google has been pushing away businesses and corporations over the last few years. I worked with a company that spend a TON of money per month and they moved their entire marketing to Bing. I know quite a lot of other businesses who have done the same. Google has become anti-business and it shows in their practices.

    I also think some people are questioning the deep impact of the Android OS as the newest iPhone is almost selling as many phones as ALL of the Android phones. Plus them acquiring Motorola Mobility worries some people....

    Google better start purchasing some companies up, as they couldn't innovate if it hit them in the face right now.
     
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    Yeah, I take that as a good sign. They don't surf the net with IM glasses on, they're both just regular surfers. And as much as I hate to admit it, the both of them aren't leaders, lol. They fall to social pressure to fit in, do what everyone else is doing haha. Teenagers aye, what can you do.

    When their friends come over to visit, I'll ask them what they use to surf the net.
     
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    It's a nice war between Google and Bing. It's bad to show that many paid results but I don't think Google is going down that easy. They are living from statistics as many from here. I think they make experiments and learn some things the hard way.
     
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    too bad yahoo's not for canada
     
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    Very nice write up. I read in an article the other day, and the author predicted that Bing will have a 20% increase in their marketshare during 2012 . Well after this I think not only the prediction will come true but actually Bing will start going ahead of Google .

    It is really stupid of G00gal to ignore their primary motive- to help people search things. And by trying to fix which was not broken and by trying to make a bunch of people happy they have in turn made a hell lot of them unhappy ..
     
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    bING NEED to do what googall did in the beginning and appease webmasters. This means fucking crawling and indexing faster. Relevancy isnt too bad, but in terms of indexing and crawling new content it is crap. But yeah, I agree Googall is diluting their brand, the problem is they have NO marketers, it is purely an engineering company that 'tries' to innovate, with no marketing research. Seems to be going like Rome?
     
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    It's a good sign, but other search engines should take advantage of this and tweak their search engines to beat Google in their game and also offer a strong alternative to publishers worldwide.
     
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    Im sure they already have.