Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Expertpeon, Jun 5, 2012.
Yes they are willing to monetize every single thing they own. I heard that they also bought meebo , wondering how they will be monetizing it.
Expert , did you receive my pms ?
Fucking Google. God damn, i hate them more every day. I see what their plans are; first offer a service for free, then when enough people use them, suck their users dry for every dollar they have. This will be the start of more and more paid crap from them. Just wait untill they start charging you for using Gmail, Docs, Maps, etc. And of course still keep throwing their stupid ads in your face.
They have replaced "Don't be evil" with the famous 80's mantra of "Greed is Good"
I was just thinking more about it. And it's a ridiculous move. This is not going to help their users who are looking for products. Nope, this is going to help the BIG guys like Amazon, Buy, Target, Walmart, etc, etc become Bigger and Bigger.
We, the small businesses get fucked in the ass again by Google. First with AdWords, now this, what is next? Why don't we all stop using them, let's see how soon they will be done.
My entire business has relied on Google Shopping.... great news today! Google really is a monopoly and a new search engine needs to emerge that can acutally display free relevant results, because Yahoo/Bing sure as hell can't. What a joke they are!
Yes Google is going to offer services for free until they build a large base of consumers reliant on those services. Then charge for them.
To be fair, I find Yahoo/Bing to be a much better source for e-commerce organic search than google (minus google shopping which has been a historically excellent tool for finding the best prices on items, which will no longer be the case). Google is completely in love with amazon, and amazon does not serve up the best prices for the vast majority of products.
Are you referring to Yahoo/Bing being a better source as a user of the site, or for promoting and generating traffic?
Not sure I understand your reference to Amazon, but since we are on the topic of Amazon, I wonder how this new change to Google will effect Amazon Product Ads that are displayed on Google Shopping. Amazon can not be very happy about this change (but they probably have a back room deal with Google).
As a user of course
My reference is that in most ecommerce niches amazon ranks #1 or #2 even though its relevance is generally lower than many other specific sites (and their prices are higher)
Should we be surprised anytime Google monetizes THEIR properties?
Will you be surprised when Google starts charging for gee-male?
The Google monopoly machine is in full blast!
I got off that train long ago.
I stopped using Google search.
I have no Google + on any of my sites.
I'm even starting to convert my Adsense sites to other forms of monetization.
I'm switching all of my primary email accounts away from gee-male and I'm converting over to all other forms of traffic. My goal is to make Google less than twenty five percent of my traffic and income.
You can win without Google.
No, not really in my world...
as much as it sucks for any of us that use G Shopping for a source of income, can you really blame them? I mean are there any of us here that don't actually monetize our sites up to the gills? If you owned google, would you not try and squeeze out every single dime that you could? I know I sure as hell would.
In this case I wholly disagree... because there's anti-trust concerns at work here.
This is not a small sector of the economy they are exploiting, like your own website, they are exploiting and bribing competitors, paying huge amounts for "monopolization" rights on browsers and taking over the mobile market.
Yes, we can blame them. Because it's not what customers want, nor retailers (customers want the cheapest option, period, which will always be the option who isn't paying for advertising).
If time warner cable (which is a monopoly on cable and internet in most areas) decided to began inserting ads they owned into every page you browsed as a floating flash script, you'd be facing a similar problem to what google has become.
Google's revenues are growing at a mind blowing 33% yearly rate... and this is coming from the exploitation of everyone and anti-trust actions against competitors like microsoft...
In the EC, google has till July 2nd to comply with anti-trust changes being demanded. They respond by grabbing more and more revenue anyway
I'd love to see google fined 10-20 billion ish and be broken up, but I doubt that will happen with 5 years or so.
Interesting... Giving shopping results over to adwords means that anybody who happens to have a banned adwords account can now also lose their regular day-job livelihood in terms of product sales.
I have a few hundred ecommerce not-worth-much listings with sites that feed through to google-base. Stands to reason they will become redundant facilities as they already charge monthly fees and I guess will now be forced to look for more. That will tip the deal over the edge and personally I'll just roll back and cut them out of the equation. Hmmm. must work harder on ebay then and may as well take another look at Amazon seeing as I no longer enjoy the privileges of an Adwords account, but still got to make a day job living... I love Google,,, its the only thing that stinks worse than my own shit!
Google is making PROFITS of over 10 Billion dollars per year... When is enough, enough? At the current pace they will completely destroy the small business. All in favor of more, more, more money. I am seriously thinking of quitting IM and my business.
I simply cannot compete with the big boys out there. Amazon, buy.com, walmart, target, you name them.
- I can't rank 1 or even page 1 on G because always Amazon is #1 and #2, after that come the other big guys.
- I can't buy every seo package or service out there to rank higher. I just don't have the budget.
- I can't use AdWords, because i can't afford to pay $5 per click to get a "potential customer" to my site. I just don't have the budget.
Is this a fair business? Hell no. Money, money, money. It will be the end of the internet.
Just wait and you will see that in a year, maybe 2, Google page 1 listings are ONLY paid listings. Greedy fucks.
Building a better shopping experience my ass. It will be impossible to provide the lowest prices if they are paid ads. Such BS
I also got this message today. I think Google will implement some tactics to prevent SERPs from being stack with Amazons.
There was a time when Amazon hated Google, those time are gone and Amazon is fucking everywhere.
They bought mebo and some other company's.
Google learned faster that Microsoft that bribing the US government and supporting the winning side brings you peace.
They will have problems is in EU. There they need to bribe more people with much more money. I am sure that they can invite in Ireland members of the parliament and give them suitcases filled with $$$ millions
Their problems are with France and Germany, particularly France who they have until 2 days from now to supply them a full explanation of how they store and retain information or face fines.
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